Women wearing skirts

[MrSoapsud]

I wonder if more guys realised that it is entirely possible to dress in whatever you like and not worry about passing, wigs and bathrooms etc. by remaining a man, whether more would choose to be MIS.

I do wonder how much of the gender dysphoria, gender identity etc stuff is related to the belief that to express yourself in certain ways requires that you have the "right gender". (Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying all of it does!) Like you say Mouse, if more men thought they could wear a skirt or dress without having to worry about looking like a women, would they do it.

[rode_kater]

I know in my case I was confused for quite a while. Then during corona I got the courage to do one of the makeovers where you get dressed up female and get the whole makeup, etc done. I did that, looked in the mirror and thought: nope, that's not it.

It was a turning point for me, since from that moment I was sure it was just the wearing skirts/dresses I wanted, not the whole "become female" bit.

(I also did mermaid swimming in a one-piece, which was fun, no photos .)

[jamie001]

I wonder if more guys realised that it is entirely possible to dress in whatever you like and not worry about passing, wigs and bathrooms etc. by remaining a man, whether more would choose to be MIS.

I do wonder how much of the gender dysphoria, gender identity etc stuff is related to the belief that to express yourself in certain ways requires that you have the "right gender". (Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying all of it does!) Like you say Mouse, if more men thought they could wear a skirt or dress without having to worry about looking like a women, would they do it.

I have always wondered the same thing! Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to be able to wear women's clothing? Such a great question!

[STEVIE]

Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to be able to wear women's clothing? Such a great question!

There's a very simple answer Jamie.
For anyone who is non-transgendered, yes, in effect they are merely playing at being women, female or feminine.
Rivegauche, whom we haven't heard from in a while, coined the term "gender tourism", which strikes me as appropriate.
Society assumes skirts are womenswear so we must be wearing female clothes.
That is not going away anytime soon so many men will continue striving to make their perceived image match that of their fashion choices.
The controversy of calling a Kilt a skirt would evaporate if this were not the case.
I'd happily wager that many men use kilts as ersattz skirts, hidden in plain sight.
Steve.

[Barleymower]

Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to be able to wear women's clothing? Such a great question!

Another simple way of looking at the question:
Not all women in this world get to wear beautiful clothes, some have to wear ugly cover all tunic type clothes. Not a good situation but i'm willing to hazard a guess that don't want to be men just because of their drab clothes. They might just want nicer clothes.

[Grok]

I wonder if more guys realised that it is entirely possible to dress in whatever you like and not worry about passing, wigs and bathrooms etc. by remaining a man, whether more would choose to be MIS.

For many years I thought that I must be a Tranny. I had no alternative frame of reference.

But I just could to not get interested in the female impersonator aspect of their life style.

As for when my indoctrination....I mean socialization...began, I must have been so little that I don't even remember it. Even as a small boy I knew that I had to hide my interest in (what I now refer to as) MIS.

[Grok]

I have always wondered the same thing! Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to be able to wear women's clothing? Such a great question!

Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to wear jewelry, or nail polish, or in some other way express their personality that is forbidden to men?

[STEVIE]

Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to wear jewelry, or nail polish, or in some other way express their personality that is forbidden to men?

No, they don't wish to be women.
They do put themselves through psychological hell and huge expense to don a female mantle in order to comply with society's expectations.
For some it works, for others, it wrecks their lives to the point of suicide.
I am one of the lucky ones, and came out on the right side.
All I can say is that I am trying in my own way to make it easier on the next guy but I will never say just "DO IT"!
Steve.

[jamie001]

Do they really want to be women, or do they just want to wear jewelry, or nail polish, or in some other way express their personality that is forbidden to men?

No, they don't wish to be women.
They do put themselves through psychological hell and huge expense to don a female mantle in order to comply with society's expectations.
For some it works, for others, it wrecks their lives to the point of suicide.
I am one of the lucky ones, and came out on the right side.
All I can say is that I am trying in my own way to make it easier on the next guy but I will never say just "DO IT"!
Steve.

Stevie,

Everything makes perfect sense in you reply, until I get to the end. I don't understand why you won't say "just do it". "Just Do It" is the only way to fashion freedom for men!

[STEVIE]

I don't understand why you won't say "just do it". "Just Do It" is the only way to fashion freedom for men!

For men as a homogenous group, absolutely get angry, protest, take that freedom and run with it.
Not so much for isolated men without a visible support network or chosen family, these guys may need to be a tad more cautious.
Steve.
I have burned so many bridges in my skirted journey that a return to trousers would be impossible.

[Grok]

Women wanted to wear their own trousers (slacks), their own tops, their own shoes, their own jewellery etc. The only difference were THEIR trousers.

What do many men in skirts want? Women's tops, women's shoes, women's jewellery etc. And yes, whereas MEN in skirts (and no other female items) might be acceptable to women, men, wanting everything from the female wardrobe, are not.

Recalling the few times I have encountered men wearing jewelry or nail polish, they were wearing typical drab male clothing. I have to wonder if that was deliberate-that they were trying to be accepted while still indulging their particular interests.

Yes, I will be a non-conformist in this one way, while still trying to cling to a traditional masculine image.