What did you get for Xmas?

[Big and Bashful]

I reckon you'd need to be an 'Electronic Engineer' to own a Renault.

Stupid question time: If the battery on a completely electronic-access car goes flat, how does one get into it? (Short of using a crowbar, that is.)

There pretty much has to be a jack someplace on the things that'd be accessible without having to pop either the bonnet or boot (those being unlocked electrically from inside) that'd allow one to get into a completely dead vehicle -- which, if discovered, pretty much makes all the added "security" that all those electronics give pretty lame.

A friend of mine had an old Renault Clio, he had a completely flat battery. On those the key only operates a switch, not a mechanical lock. He had to call for a Recovery Service" man to break into it. We now know that if you have one of those Clios, you wire in a lead to the battery so that you can add power to get the thing opened if the battery dies.
I don't know about my little Clio, it might have the same problem, I just don't lock it.

[Gregg1100]

Designers want shagging with the blunt end of a pineapple-they should be made to manufacture and service the idiotic hair brained nightmares they seem to dream up. If the car battery should go flat, then mechanical workings should take over and open the door---with a key. Easy.

[janrok]

Big and Bashful,

In most cars you can only unlock the hood from the inside.......

Jan.

[Big and Bashful]

Big and Bashful,

In most cars you can only unlock the hood from the inside.......

Jan.

Yes, the "trailling lead" is left dangling in a reachable place, I guess maybe in a wheel-arch or somewhere behind the front bumper. Sorry, maybe I missed mentioning that bit!

[Mugs-n-such]

Designers want shagging with the blunt end of a pineapple-they should be made to manufacture and service the idiotic hair brained nightmares they seem to dream up. If the car battery should go flat, then mechanical workings should take over and open the door---with a key. Easy.

I think I heard that Studebaker made their engineers serve in the service department for a year, I guess to keep them from making things too hard to get to...sounds like a good idea to me! So many good companies went belly-up...Studebaker, Tucker, Packard, Duesenberg, etc. etc.
For Christmas got a pair of trousers, a shirt, a sweater and some candy. The really great thing though was time with brothers, sister-in-law and nephew and niece whom I hadn't seen for awhile!
As crfriend pointed out, it's time, companionship and camaraderie that count...I just wish I had spent more time with Dad when he was in the nursing home.