Company dress code

[dillon]

I like my hoodie too, but I'll never wear pants that look like I just dropped a load in them, or that show my boxers. That's not fashion; it's just stupid and gross.

[moonshadow]

I like my hoodie too, but I'll never wear pants that look like I just dropped a load in them, or that show my boxers. That's not fashion; it's just stupid and gross.

I'll agree with that. I wouldn't be caught dead sagging my pants. Well, then again, outside of work, the only thing I wear anymore is skirts anyway, so I guess it's a moot point.

However that said, I can't in good conscience criticize those who have different "styles", after all, those who sag probably think we look ridiculous as well. In fact, that's actually one point I kept telling myself when I first started skirting. "Well, I can do this, after all, it's not as ridiculous as those who wear baggy pants around their knees". And out the door I went with a skirt on!

Also, they may be faster than I am generally speaking, but when they wear their baggy pants, I bet I can outrun them in a skirt!

[john62]

On hats in Church, goes back 2000 years to the writing of Paul where he stated that women should cover their hair when worshipping. I have been told that in these days a man would look at a women's hair if it was long and thick this was a sign of a healthy women. Therefore to stop wandering thoughts during worship the hair must be covered, the business of finding a mate could then take place over morning tea, if they had morning tea.

John

[moonshadow]

On hats in Church, goes back 2000 years to the writing of Paul where he stated that women should cover their hair when worshipping. I have been told that in these days a man would look at a women's hair if it was long and thick this was a sign of a healthy women. Therefore to stop wandering thoughts during worship the hair must be covered, the business of finding a mate could then take place over morning tea, if they had morning tea.

John

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Hmmm... ahhh.... organized religion.... Gotta love it

[r.m.anderson]

DRESS CODE ? $%@&* !!!

Strange you can not wear a DRESS to comply with the DRESS CODE.

Is there such a thing as "SKIRT CODE" or "PANTS CODE" or even shirt/blouse code ???

The quicker we get to tomorrow with what little time we have left the better
to enjoy the clothing that is available to any and all for wearing.

Covering the bits and pieces of moral CODE (hide those lucky charms from the young ones-
where do babies come from ?) should be all that is required.
Wear what you need to be comfortable and sheltered from the elements of nature.

[moonshadow]

It's all just so silly isn't it? Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to come off as some kind of pompous jerk, but every night I look up at the stars above, and I'm almost 100% sure that what ever created all of that up there probably doesn't care what I or anyone else for that matter wears.

[Judah14]

DRESS CODE ? $%@&* !!!

Strange you can not wear a DRESS to comply with the DRESS CODE.

Is there such a thing as "SKIRT CODE" or "PANTS CODE" or even shirt/blouse code ???

The quicker we get to tomorrow with what little time we have left the better
to enjoy the clothing that is available to any and all for wearing.

Covering the bits and pieces of moral CODE (hide those lucky charms from the young ones-
where do babies come from ?) should be all that is required.
Wear what you need to be comfortable and sheltered from the elements of nature.

Okay let's make that "prescribed attire"
To be pragmatic, while in some cases (like office work) having no prescribed attire won't hurt, in factory and construction work or any hazardous job having the required personal protected equipment (PPE) could be the difference between life and death.

[moonshadow]

in factory and construction work or any hazardous job having the required personal protected equipment (PPE) could be the difference between life and death.

Agreed, or it may also just be plain nasty... wouldn't want to ruin a good skirt. As for me, virtually all of my skirts are first and foremost for the aesthetically pleasing value I derive from them. My job would MUTILATE my skirts!

Case in point...

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This is NOT skirt territory!

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Would hate to have a hem sucked into this thing!

PS: Last night I downloaded all of my smart phone camera photos and uploaded them to my flickr. I have named the album "Day in the life of Moon Shadow", for those who are curious, I am somewhat proud of what I do, feel free to check it out. I plan to keep this album updated.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/136031761 ... 0057665479

[skirted_in_SF]

I worked in a cannery over 40 years ago and we would have had guards on motor driven pumps (or whatever) like you show in your picture.

[moonshadow]

I worked in a cannery over 40 years ago and we would have had guards on motor driven pumps (or whatever) like you show in your picture.

That is a motor to an "Indexing label applier", which is a machine that basically takes a label from a scale and sticks it on a pack of meat.
The motor pictured is normally behind panels with safetys in place that will shut the machine down if opened. However in my line of work, we do occasionally have to work on "live" machinery for troubleshooting and adjustments.

For instance, I had to remove my favorite hoodie today while working on an oven because I was leaning over a range with an open pilot, and I caught myself allowing the hoodie to drape awfully close to the flame.

Necklaces are best avoided as they can also hang, and I've had my head hanging just inches over live 480 volt contacts before. It can be a dangerous job, and defiantly NOT skirt territory. But in the 10 years I've been doing this, I've never had a serious incident. Just minor scrapes and bruises.

Some people say "shut the kitchen down". Those people have never serviced restaurant equipment. It's not residential, where you can tell people to stay out of your way, I've replaced gas valves on fryers on grand openings, crouched down like an egg, working while people stand shoulder to shoulder right above me cooking fries and chicken. Yelling and screaming, dishes breaking, cussing.... ahh those were the days.

[dillon]

It's all just so silly isn't it? Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to come off as some kind of pompous jerk, but every night I look up at the stars above, and I'm almost 100% sure that what ever created all of that up there probably doesn't care what I or anyone else for that matter wears.

I must agree with that.

[pelmut]

... in my line of work, we do occasionally have to work on "live" machinery for troubleshooting and adjustments.
...leaning over a range with an open pilot
...I've had my head hanging just inches over live 480 volt contacts
...I've replaced gas valves on fryers on grand openings, crouched down like an egg, ...

What would a woman wear in those circumstances? It is just a matter of common sense to dress appropriately.

Unfortunately, common sense seems to break down when it comes to less physical jobs. A cool skirt in Summer or a warm skirt in Winter may be far more practical than trousers for an office job, giving greater comfort and better productivity; so why shouldn't men be allowed to choose this option when the circumstances are appropriate?

I agree that it may be difficult for a customer-facing job, where the underlying problem may not be the attitude of management, but the bigotry of the customers. That will slowly change as more men wear skirts in public in their leisure time, so let's all do what we can to help it along.

[Milfmog]

...it may be difficult for a customer-facing job, where the underlying problem may not be the attitude of management, but the bigotry of the customers.

Except that, as we all know, the vast majority of people don't give a fig what we wear. The problem is that "management" have the same set of imaginary demons as most male skirt wears had when they started out. Unfortunately, management have never tested their assumptions on this and so have not discovered that they are wrong.

That will slowly change as more men wear skirts in public in their leisure time, so let's all do what we can to help it along.

I think this is true in the world outside work, but the assumption in the work environment will take longer to correct. However, whenever we wear a skirted outfit in public we are doing a little more to normalise skirt wearing by males and making the journey that bit easier for the next skirted man (hence the importance Carl's "believability test").

Have fun,


Ian.

[crfriend]

The motor pictured is normally behind panels with safetys in place that will shut the machine down if opened. However in my line of work, we do occasionally have to work on "live" machinery for troubleshooting and adjustments.

This is actually very, very, common when one needs to repair machinery of any kind. It is not uncommon for me to find myself, when in "computer-repair mode" dealing with exposed high-voltage/high-current (300 VDC mains on power-supplies, for instance) stuff that might not be shielded, with fairly high-speed stuff that can catch loose clothing (the odd pen-plotter or high-speed printer), or stuff that would just get one fantastically dirty if ones garment was to fall into it (electrostatic plotters/printers).

Hilariously, the dress-code for the place that I worked at in the 1980s (which had all of the above hazards and then some) dictated a neck-tie -- when even the operators' manuals discouraged the wearing of such things around some of this kit even if the covers were all on the machines! Go figure. (Most of us wore our ties tucked in; if I knew it was going to be a filthy day, I'd wear a black shirt and a bow-tie.

Needless to say, skirts were right out.

[dillon]

...it may be difficult for a customer-facing job, where the underlying problem may not be the attitude of management, but the bigotry of the customers.

Except that, as we all know, the vast majority of people don't give a fig what we wear. The problem is that "management" have the same set of imaginary demons as most male skirt wears had when they started out. Unfortunately, management have never tested their assumptions on this and so have not discovered that they are wrong.

That will slowly change as more men wear skirts in public in their leisure time, so let's all do what we can to help it along.

I think this is true in the world outside work, but the assumption in the work environment will take longer to correct. However, whenever we wear a skirted outfit in public we are doing a little more to normalise skirt wearing by males and making the journey that bit easier for the next skirted man (hence the importance Carl's "believability test").

Have fun,


Ian.

That may be so in the UK, but not at all in my locality or avocation. There are no stated rules against my wearing a skirt or kilt to work, but I know my client base very well; very rural, very traditional, and very religiously fundamentalist. It would destroy my credibility and professional functionality to go before these people dressed in a way that surprised them or drew attention from my mission or the problems I am there to address. Plus I really don't care to explain myself to everyone; 90% of these folks just wouldn't understand. Please don't try to tell me that I don't yet know that. I have twenty years of experience with them. They are good people, but I don't intend to be a skirt ambassador for people whose perceptions just can't handle it. What I wear on my own time is my business, however, and our social paths seldom cross.