I got surprised

[sapphire]

By Carl's outfit this morning:

White men's dress shirt
Red wool vest
Maroon mini skirt
White tights
Black fishnet tights over the white tights

My first thought was "kinky" (regarding the fishnets), although Carl has great legs and they looked good in the fishnets.

Upon some reflection, I realized that what bothered me was that, to my eye, the outfit was disjointed. The upper half had a formality to it.. Even the mini is rather straight and tailored looking. The hose was very informal, playful.

It didn't look "bad", just disjointed.

If I had put together something using the black fishnets it would have been:
Black t-shirt
Black and purple mini kilt
Hot pink tights
Black fishnets over the hot pink tights

What do the rest of you think?

[ChristopherJ]

If I had put together something using the black fishnets it would have been:
Black t-shirt
Black and purple mini kilt
Hot pink tights
Black fishnets over the hot pink tights

Bit tarty!

He's likely to get propositioned in an outfit like that. Or arrested.

[Peter v]

I like it. Why? I find it inventive, daring, for him, and breaking with convention ( been looking for that word often and couldn't find it) does you good. And because HE likes it apparently, and seems to find it suitable. The idea of two layers, panty and fishnet is a clever one.

I came across two young women on bycicles, a few years back, and they were wearing mini skirts, red pantys and black fishnet stokkings over that. It looked really good, both the girls and of course the panty / stocking combi. That is just making good use of a colour background for the net stokking which does look good. That is a layering technique which is now all the rage with women's above the waist clothing, having layers of shirts over each other.

As for any other message sent than personal pleasure, well that is all in the eye of the onlooker. Arresting somebody for looking good would be really stupid. It is not what you wear, but what you intend, and without a doubt make known that is decisive. And as for soliciting, there is no soliciting without another person who is wanting to see that.


Experimenting with clothing is done all the time. I think it is mostly more a question of "that is new to me" rather than "not right". Or "disjointed" .

Being able to put clothing on which is different to the regulations at that time, is called freedom.

If no one "experimented" ( we call it experimenting, but it is actually just wearing something other than others are used to seeing ) then there would be no change, no colour. What is it that fashion people do? They come up with things others also thought about but because it was different to what we knew at that moment they trashed the idea. So the designers experiment all the time. When an individual "experiments", he is often told, no that is not right, but actually it is said that it is different to that which we are used to, and we don't want any change. That's a mouthful.

In short, isn't it just great to be creative?

With all that said, there remain some things that we never seem to have a good feeling about. That is just something in our brains that is so and don't ask why, because that is like asking why there are people on Earth...
Better leave it at that. Call that personal taste. And is is not wrong to say "I find that "unbalanced" and not being able to explain why.

[Milfmog]

Sapphire,

Sounds to me like Carl was happy trying something a little different. Often when trying something new to us we concentrate on the new bit, in this case the layered tights, and lose sight of the rest or of the overall look, that's where an honest and considered opinion from a friend is so valuable.

Someone has to ask so it might as well be me...

I reckon you ought to provide pictures of each look for us to consider

Have fun,


Ian.

[crfriend]

Sounds to me like Carl was happy trying something a little different. Often when trying something new to us we concentrate on the new bit, in this case the layered tights, and lose sight of the rest or of the overall look, that's where an honest and considered opinion from a friend is so valuable.

I was actually just fiddling about with the look to see if it "went". I believe part of the experiment (the lower half) was a success, but the incongruity of the fairly formal waistcoat up top didn't "go" quite right with the very informal mini-and-fishnet look.

I've given it another go, but this time, as Sapphire suggested I've got on a t-shirt up top (a blue one as I couldn;t find my black one) a pink/black plaid (hers, I'll admit it) mini-kilt/skirt, and sheers under the fishnets (which go into the wash in a little bit). We shall see if this "look" fares better, although it's still not somehing I'd wear outside.

I completely accept that not all experiments work the first time; some never do, despite everything going perfectly. I'm just happy if I come out the other end in none the worse for wear. OK, that was an awful pun. Sorry.

I reckon you ought to provide pictures of each look for us to consider

If I'm not comfortable enough in something to wear it out of the house, it's almost a dead assurance that I haven't got the cajones to be anywhere near a camera in it!

[sapphire]

I've done some more thinking about the original outfit and think that if Carl had worn his "puffy" shirt instead of the dress hsirt the overall look would have worked better. There would have been more of a balance between formal and playful.

Carl described what he's wearing now. I think its very sexy.

Experimentation is great and it is a wonderful way to discover new things. Some experiments work and others don't. I'm glad that Carl is experimenting.

I'd like to make one thing clear: I have no problem at all with Carl wearing fishnet stockings. His legs look great in them. I was musing on the other choices that went with them.

I'm actually the one who bought the pink tights/black fishnet combo, so obviously I like the colorful background for the net stockings look.

The layering idea is great (both upper and lower), especially for cold weather. Personally, I like putting together a look that includes a t, vest, cardigan or pullover, jacket and scarf above and tights, knee socks and (if very cold) ankle socks.

The one thing I can't understand is layering tank tops or camisoles in the summer. For example, this summer I went on a rescue with a young woman who was wearing two camisoles. The combination was very pretty, but the day was HOT! I had on a tank top and thought I was going to die of heat stroke and my glasses kept fogging up.

[CJFMix]

Let's see ... I have worn fishnets over some skin colored , black , white and grey , sheer or opaque , and it works fine !!!

I have seen pictures of fishnets over some pink , orange and red pantyhose and it looked good too !!!

Frankly , I have some problems with matching stuff together ...
My first criteria is comfort , the looks go in second !!!

Whenever something doesn't match with whatever I wear , my Gf is there to bring up a solution !!!
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[Pythos]

One look I rather like is fishnets UNDER sheer black tights or hose. It looks slightly different than nets over hose.

One funny effect is after removal of both layers is the waffle like appearance of one's skin.

If done right Fishnets look quite good, done wrong they look slutty:-)

[DavidsSkirts]

While I like the idea of this, I don't know if I would want to wear the hotter or brighter shades of colours like pink, purple, lavender, turquoise and the like - I think I would go for more muted and duller shades of such colours - at least until brighter colours on males isn't an issue...


Often the winter days are mild enough around here, that the tights and a lightweight top (and maybe boots - if I can find a suitable high pair..) would be all that's needed to 'winterise' a mini' based outfit - still, that's 5 or 6 months before I even need to worry about pantyhose/stockings/tights - the temp's are mid 30's (Celsius..) today..

[SkirtDude]

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[sapphire]

Do you wear the fishnets while dancing?

[SkirtDude]

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[Peter v]

As regards to "slutty", I think that it is wholly in the eye of the onlooker, unless you yourself are BEHAVING obviously so that you WANT to appear slutty. slutty is not per definition what you wear, but the way you act.

Some people may think that men wearing anything that women wear, regarded as femminine, ( not pants) are Gay, or have some sickly ( in their perception) perverse thing in mind. So when we think about how normal people would see us, then I would think that we would have to do our darnedest best to have others think "slutty".

Peter v.

For those of us who are more freestyle, or daring, varying leg covering, tights etc, gives great opportunitys to expand our outward expression.

[DavidsSkirts]

Do you notice how what is considered slutty in one decade, is often taken up by singers and clubbers over the next decade, and flows on from there into mainstream fashion, a decade or two on ??


What prostitutes and "low" women may have been wearing in the 70's and 80's is often more widely accepted and worn these days, while the working girls themselves are often wearing either next-to-nothing or are more normally dressed, these days...


As for some people's perceptions of skirt-wearing men as being in some way "gay" oriented - this shows that those people actually haven't given any thought to the situation, and are blindly reacting to something different to what they consider "normal"..
If they actually took any time to rationalise their thinking, they would realise that (a minority of..) homosexuals on the prowl, would not be dressing as women - as they want to attract fellow gays to themselves, rather than portraying themselves as women (which would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it?).

[Skirt Chaser]

My first thought was "kinky" (regarding the fishnets), although Carl has great legs and they looked good in the fishnets.

Upon some reflection, I realized that what bothered me was that, to my eye, the outfit was disjointed. The upper half had a formality to it.. Even the mini is rather straight and tailored looking. The hose was very informal, playful.

It didn't look "bad", just disjointed....

What do the rest of you think?

Sometimes similar colors just don't go well side by side, I think for me red with maroon would have been the part that looked off. I also think I would have fixed it by stripping off the parts of the outfit that didn't work on my husband and then tried to take advantage of the poor man in his state of semi-dress. That's just me of course. Funny, I should ask Quiet Man if he has any fishnets though just a skirt alone is a promising enough look for me.

Do men really get how good they can look in skirts? I'm always fascinated by the guys that boldly state men are visual while women are not. I think if more men wore clothes that emphasized their beautiful bodies there would be less doubt that women can have the same reactions men do.

Quiet Mouse