Post WWII.

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Dennis A Lederl
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Post WWII.

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Several time I have made note of the boast to women's lib and women's fashion freedom that the female gender from WWII. Which has spread from just the U.S.A. to the rest of the world. Hardly any images I've seen lately, from Dr. Who to Harry Potter show the UK women in anything but pants anymore.
My desires to wear skirts came about because my mother dressed me as a girl until I was five when my father came home from WWII and put a stop to it. He was very set against it, wearing dresses or skirts even if your still being a man.
And I've been angry with him even though he died almos 20 years ago.
But recently at the funereal of my aunt, his sister, while discussing post WWII traumatic stress syndrom with my Aunt's daughter I began to realise that she had seen her father go through PTS. He was a medic at Anzio and had won a Bronze star with clusters but never discussed it with any of us. We found out after he died.
While talking with my cousin I realised suddenly that my father had been a cook in an Army hosiptial in India on the India-Burma boarder and within the Japaneese Theatre of War. Enough so he could join the VFW (Veterens Of Foriegn Wars, for you non U.S.A. members).
But as I talked I realised, while he wasn't in "action" with a firefights or landings or beachheads he must have seen the injures, sick and wounded being transported out of the battle areas. That's what an Army Hospital was and what he did talk about, including pranks played on each sounded a lot like something fro M*A*S*H. Canvas tents and bunks, etc.
So maybe I missed judged my father all these years.
Maybe his ultra conservtisim was his way to try and hang unto what he had fought for.
It was wasn't me he was mad at but the way the world after WWII was like.
And of course, having a son that wore girls clothes just reminded him of what he missed.
God, I wish I could back now and talk just once, meaningfully with both my parents one more time
So if anyone if having "family" trouble over their skirt wearing sit down and talk to them. Let them were you are coming from.
Dad and Mom assumed the worse, that I was gay or a drag queen, when nothing could be further from the truth.
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Post by mk3 »

Maybe his ultra conservtisim was his way to try and hang unto what he had fought for.
It was wasn't me he was mad at but the way the world after WWII was like.
And of course, having a son that wore girls clothes just reminded him of what he missed.
So, you never mentioned or I'm too slow to see what he missed so much. Was it being in the military or just what he did in it that he missed or something more like what the country was like pre WWII and if he missed it then why did he resent you wearing a skirt so much?
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My father and other WWII vets missed what life was like before the war. The culture the preceded everything up to that point.
Keep in mind that the divorce rate skyrocketed after WWII and has been going up ever since.
Independent women, from 600,000 to one million or more, who had put on their husband's or father's or brother's clothing and gone to work in factories and other "male only" jobs weren't willing to any longer put up with a 2nd class status or go back to being submissive.
The psychological baggage the vets brought home caused a lot of divorces as women found themselves back in the role of heads of households.
The women helped create new lives and new roles for themselves but they left the men behind, in a way.
Men weren't able to change or adapt as fast as the women, because the WANTED change. But the men didn't.
It is still that way today for a large portion of our society.
That's why men's clothing and fashions don't change too much even today. We're hanging onto what once was and only changing very. very slowly.
There won't be a major break through for men wearing skirts until there's enough men wanting to wear skirts to bring in out in the open as everyday wear. It's really a numbers game.
And the women do out number us.
That's why the first thing you see in a Walmart store is the women's wear section. That's why on Father's Day there's almost as many ads aimed at women as their are ads for Dad's. On Mother's Day it's almost all ads for gifts for Mom. There's no shopping equality their. Men don't shop they buy. Women shop and the ads aim at them. And the industries behind those ads try to sell the women.
You'll always see pants for women but without a really big, major break through you won't ever see skirts in the men's wear department. We are afraid of change.
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Post by Uncle Al »

Dennis,

Very well said! To much of 'the good ol' boy' thinking going on. Men may be willing to take 'high risk' chances such as race car driver, test pilot, etc., but this fits the 'macho' image. The 'regular-every day type' of man doesn't want to 'rock-the-boat'. He's out there trying to earn an income, supporting his family. He doesn't want to 'create a problem' at his job, even though he feels restricted by what he wears. He must keep up the 'political correctness' in his atire.

Again Dennis, you said it very well!

This is just my 2cents worth!

Uncle Al
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