Skirts are for comfort, not about sex.

imadube · Post by **imadube** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:33 am

As an American truckdriver i find most times pants are just an excuse to stop and "air out". I have worn a wrap or wrap type clothing at home and found the "skirtness" so much better. My wife really likes the idea, for my comfort and the "sexiness" of it. She has been making me some wrap type clothing and helped me get some skirts that I can use. In fact useing plain made skirts we have found that driving and casual house/garden work is much cooler, comfortable and calming.What I would like is to find some skirts, not so much Kilts (though the Utilikilt is cool) of different types that are affordable. Many pplaces that cater to Men's Skirts charge so much.I am from TN, USA and normally dress in American Western, what would be cool is a "Skilt" (like a Skort, but Skirt/Kilt for men).I have to abmit, now most times I see a girl in a cool skirt (kilt type, plain streights, and showing some leg) I get jealous. Always having to wear long pants or midleg shorts is a pain, just because several hundred years ago some European fad thought men must wear only pants.Any places out there I can look up a better idea of styles and affordability?

Bravehearts.us · Post by **Bravehearts.us** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:47 am

imadube wrote:As an American truckdriver i find most times pants are just an excuse to stop and "air out". I have worn a wrap or wrap type clothing at home and found the "skirtness" so much better. My wife really likes the idea, for my comfort and the "sexiness" of it. She has been making me some wrap type clothing and helped me get some skirts that I can use. In fact useing plain made skirts we have found that driving and casual house/garden work is much cooler, comfortable and calming.What I would like is to find some skirts, not so much Kilts (though the Utilikilt is cool) of different types that are affordable. Many pplaces that cater to Men's Skirts charge so much.I am from TN, USA and normally dress in American Western, what would be cool is a "Skilt" (like a Skort, but Skirt/Kilt for men).I have to abmit, now most times I see a girl in a cool skirt (kilt type, plain streights, and showing some leg) I get jealous. Always having to wear long pants or midleg shorts is a pain, just because several hundred years ago some European fad thought men must wear only pants.Any places out there I can look up a better idea of styles and affordability?

Try a bargain store like Goodwill and get a pleated skirt. Some of them are plaid and look similar to a traditional kilt and some are of plain material and are pleated like the non-traditional kilts. You can still look masculine, be comfortable and not get confused with someone dressing in drag.

iain · Post by **iain** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:59 pm

welcome to the club of posters on this site! keep us informed of activity in Tennesee! You'll find a few good ideas on this site.. and lots of people with suggestions. Check ebay--there's absolutely loads of stuff there. find your size equivalent in women's.. look for hipster stuff and you can't go wrong.

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:01 pm

Skirts are for comfort, not about sex.

Not even a little bit of sex? Ever?

Come on - we're not monks. Clothes of any description can look - and feel - sexy. Sometimes when I wear my normal mens' clothes I feel sexy. Sometimes I don't.

When I wear a skirt, I quite often feel sexy. But "boy sexy" - not "girl sexy". It's a bit strange I suppose.

I'm probably a pervert . . .

skirttron · Post by **skirttron** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:56 pm

Yeah I must admit, I feel sexier in a skirt too, which is perhaps tied up in some way with also feeling more comfortable and natural.

iain · Post by **iain** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:04 am

I just came back from a great "Elizabethan evening" at a big country house, and I wore a kilt--I was the only guy, among perhaps 250 people, wearing anything other than a suit and tie!

I had my beige/brown/white Diana tartan kilt, black mid-calf boots, black zip-up shirt and a beige suit jacket, and the waitresses were very complimentary. One sat on my knee, another put her hand up my kilt, another one lifted my shirt, etc.. it was all in good fun but great to be the occasional centre of attention and not just one more suit.

Of the evening, they said in the blurb, "no jeans and trainers--sorry guys, suit and tie" but I refuse to wear suit and tie anywhere now where a suit jacket, and kilt or skirt will do! Once the kilt is in place, you may as well wear pretty much what you like on top, since you no longer fit into any category and the tie--a really pointless accessory--has no place anymore.

So if it's not about sex, it's certainly about the attention, no question there!

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:18 am

I was the only guy, among perhaps 250 people, wearing anything other than a suit and tie!

Well done you! I think that's great.

One sat on my knee, another put her hand up my kilt, another one lifted my shirt, etc

I told you it was all about the sex . . .

Website · Post by **crfriend** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:27 am

ChristopherJ wrote:Come on - we're not monks.

Too right! Put quite bluntly, I actually like the attention that wearing a skirt can generate -- it's the peacock thing, and it's such a shame that men can't wear anything other than penguin suits (when they're not in the denim uniform). If I don't feel like attracting attention, then I wear camoflage (tr*users) and blend into the surrounding blandness; however, if I'm in a festive mood, then it's time to play with the wardrobe!

There's nothing inherently wrong with feeling (or wanting to feel) sexy. Hell, the gals get away with it all the time. Guys got the short end of the stick, societally, in that regard. If one goes back and reads some of the ink that got spilled over the V&A exhibition of "men in skirts" one is naturally drawn to the Curator's comment of, "One is very aware of a man in a skirt as an overtly sexual presence" (or something very close to that effect). And there's nothing wrong with that so long as all the other societal norms are respected (like maintaining decency). So why not!

ChristopherJ wrote:When I wear a skirt, I quite often feel sexy. But "boy sexy" - not "girl sexy". It's a bit strange I suppose.

If you're feeling "girl sexy" then there are other factors in play which, in all liklihood, don't play well here. As far as out and out, "I'm the peacock and I'm allowed to strut my stuff to attract the girls" notion goes, that's an absolutely fabulous feeling. Note that it does require one hell of a lot of confidence (b*lls made out of solid rock) to pull it off, but successfully doing so is its own reward.

AndrewH · Post by **AndrewH** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:13 am

I remember one occasion when my wife and I went to an awards dinner for the organisation she worked for. It was strongly suggested the men wore dinner suits (with bow tie etc), so I did.
As it happened, all the other men where in casual clothes - not another suit in sight. I got all the compliments from the women there.

Perhaps what gets the compliments is being prepared to be different - many women seem to like men who are prepared to take a risk in life (not sure why) and being very different fashion wise appears to count for something. Hence the interest in men in kilts etc.

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:27 am

Perhaps it's an "Age" thing!

Certainly, the idea of 'men in skirts' seems to appeal to the sensibilities of the younger ladies - not just Kilts (the ultimate 'Babe Magnet'! :cheer: ), but 'macho' skirts in general. Wear a 'frilly frock' (ala. TV/CD) and it's invariably a major 'turn-off', mind (and certainly not in keeping with this forum's aims, to my way of thinking). :shake:

I would take issue with Imadube's assertion that, "Always having to wear long pants or midleg shorts is a pain, just because several hundred years ago some European fad thought men must wear only pants." To my UK way of thinking, wholesale Tr*userisation of males and females is a product of the North American film industry as much as anything. Certainly, their depiction of their interpretation of 'bi-furcated' ancestors has had a major impact on the mis-begotten concept that they wore such garments, and in doing so = 'macho'. Also, the notion of depicting tr*user-clad women as somehow 'strong', 'powerful' and somehow 'superior' to their sisters who didn't, has had a devastating effect on peoples' concept of skirts as anything other than 'second-rate', or, 'for show only'.

iain · Post by **iain** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:35 pm

I remember as I walked in (late, because of a road crash and traffic jam) the girl at the cloakroom gave me a huge smile.

I think what happens is that when you're wearing something as unusual and as accessible as a skirted garment, the first time women see you, immediately a preconception jumps to mind. It's the same as if you were carrying a gun, but in reverse! When you're wearing something so unusual, it's a mental stimulation which is constantly working in your favour.

That great first impression might be worn down or negated somewhat when they start to talk to you, or it might change to something better, if they like you; it's an instant attention getter and the rest is up to you. I think it's neat, very liberating. For a shy person, clothing can be a good way of breaking down the self-made barrier between them and other people. I think it is healthy to be seen right away as an individual and not one of the crowd.

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:18 pm

Very good points, Iain!

The really wacky thing with the girls/ladies (at work) that I found was that once they found out that I wore skirts away from work (a draconian dress code prevented men from wearing skirts, or Kilts, in the office), then all of a sudden, I became someone to trust, to confide in, to help with (any!) work matters and even requested my opinion on their fashion choices. As far as I'm aware, only one of them had ever briefly glimpsed me in a skirt (in the car-park?). Why didn't I challenge the 'no-Kilt' rule? Because, despite the 'open' ventilation, they're still rather too warm to wear indoors all day. Perhaps if one of the Scottish-born contingent had forced the issue, then I may have joined in, but most were Sassenachs (Lowlanders) and thus not particularly pro-Kilt!

iain · Post by **iain** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:54 pm

A female friend of mine years back said that while she sympathised with men only having limited fashion choices, they only had themselves to blame. They had insisted on being the strong conquering types and constructed a uniform--that of business, of trade--as being the emblem of their role in society to such a degree and for such a long time that it was a very long road back for anyone wanting to disown it.

Many men value money above all other things and women are often made to feel inferior because they don't earn the high salary, or "wear the pants" in the household. It's a system based on insecurity but men do indeed, as a mass, only have themselves to blame for hanging themselves up on such a peculiar hook.

Some now realise they have far more to gain by relating to women and not polarising themselves as having a separate character altogether. As long as you also show signs of responsibility and maleness, you're only departing from the "commerce" caricature, not from being male or attractive to women. From what I've seen of business, the worst of it ends up as a disaster for the individual and the planet, so departing from that is not a bad thing at all.

I went into Next today to get some cards, and strayed into the men's fashion department. I found the rigid styling and uniformity completely repugnant: I couldn't stay even a minute.

ChristopherJ · Post by **ChristopherJ** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:40 am

crfriend said:
Put quite bluntly, I actually like the attention that wearing a skirt can generate -- it's the peacock thing, and it's such a shame that men can't wear anything other than penguin suits (when they're not in the denim uniform).

I agree with that 100%. I first started to think about wearing a skirt when I became absolutely frustrated at my inability to buy any casual male clothes for myself outside of the very narrow range of denim jeans etc. What precipitated this is that I went to London for the day and visted Portobello Market to try to find some decent male clothes. I could not find anything except denim jeans and corderoy (spell?) or leather jackets. But among the clothes for women there, I saw hundreds of different styles, materials, textures, colours etc. I came back home very deflated by the experience.

After that, I began to have some cotton trousers made up out of material that I chosen. I like wearing bright colours in the summer - and this was the only way I could get something that I actually liked.

If you're feeling "girl sexy" then there are other factors in play which, in all liklihood, don't play well here. As far as out and out, "I'm the peacock and I'm allowed to strut my stuff to attract the girls" notion goes, that's an absolutely fabulous feeling.

Again, I agree. As I said in my post - like everyone (or most, anyway) here, when I wear a skirt I don't feel in any way feminized or feminine. I feel just like the normal me - which is basically a 55 year old man with the mental age of a child . . :crazy:

So when I feel sexy while wearing a skirt - it is a "boy sexy" or, as you say, a bit like the peacock strutting his stuff. And there is no doubt that it is a bit of a thrill. But I also find it a bit nerve racking, as there is no doubt that some men see this as a threat to their own status - or something.

In fact, it might help to deter any aggression from men like that if I get a sweatshirt made with a SKIRT WARRIOR emblem on it. Anyone want to design a logo?

Post by **Bob** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:31 am

Welcome, imadube!

Just look around at the normal clothing stores for skirts. Try them on until you find one that fits your body and your sense of style. It can take some persistence. I often tire of trying stuff on before I find anything, so then I just leave the store emptyhanded until the mood suits me some other time.