The Guardian 12th Sept 2023 "Why men are buying womenswear"

[familyman34]

An article in today's Guardian "Why men are buying womenswear" - about boring, such boring (and more expensive) men's fashion.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/202 ... womenswear

[STEVIE]

An article in today's Guardian "Why men are buying womenswear" - about boring, such boring (and more expensive) men's fashion.
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/202 ... womenswear

Hi Familyman,
Not much here that we all don't know already.
Really, it makes as good a case as any for stripping gender labels out of clothing completely.
However, we also know that won't happen while men who "cross the aisle" are in the minority or do it in utter secrecy.
The retailers will only change the status quo with financial incentive and right now that is negligible at best.
Steve.

[GerdG]

I think, an article like this is a very positive thing, and it is just one of many. The future for men in skirts has never looked better - to my opinion.

[Barleymower]

Stevie "Crossing the aisle" had me thinking.

Here's an article about women wearing menswear. Beth Keneddy talks about her experience in crossing the aisle.

https://www.genderfreeworld.com/blogs/n ... ns-clothes

She talks about the odd looks and gasps from women saying "but that's for men!". She also describes her experience of homophobia. She says that men, women and children alike can be homophobic.

Fact is that women don't actually wear mens clothes (much) they wear womens versions of mens clothes. When they wear actual mens clothes, that's when the trouble starts. Their experiences are much the same as ours.

If we are to see the clothes we want to wear in the mens section, or better still no mens/womens sections then we are going to have to fight for it. I don't mean actual fighting but we need to stop making excuses and go out there and do it. Face the questions, the looks, comments, smirks and most of .... being ignored.

[rode_kater]

It's funny reading this because a number of years ago we had a news item about the opposite problem: namely that women were complaining that the t-shirts they bought were lousy quality and got holes after only a few washes. And that if they wanted t-shirts that lasted they had to buy from the men's aisle.

The argument was that men simply wouldn't put up with t-shirts that only lasted a week, whereas some women have been so conditioned they accept they have to buy new t-shirts every few weeks. They even got a fabric specialist to analyse the women's clothing and showed the lousy materials they used. If women wanted better quality they should stop buying crap.

But frankly, if you're buying a €3 t-shirt from Primark you're getting exactly what you pay for. They still do it though.

[Barleymower]

It seems to be symptomatic of what's happening. That is: men have limited options so choose quality.
Women have lots of options and end up with lots low quality items.
Shows that I'm still being a man about my clothes buying. I'm as interested in the quality as I am the look. I"d rather have two nice skirts than 10 from Primark.
This, however does not mean I'm stylish I wish!

[JohnH]

Speaking about womenswear: I think dresses need to be made in two chest configurations: flat chested and busty. You can see flat chested women wearing dresses with the awful bagging in the chest area. Of course I don't have that problem wearing dresses as I'm a busty basso

John

[rivegauche]

Maybe we at beginning to get past the gender labelling on clothes. Shops can sell skirts, not ladies' skirts. Or we as men can simply ignore gender labelling. Most skirts fit men without any problem. I wear dresses most of the time and many have no shaping in the bust area so would work for men. A simple T-shirt dress of reasonable quality can be bought in M&S for less than £20.