other ways of going public

[couyalair]

However interesting and friendly it may be for us to exchange thoughts here, I wonder if there are not better ways of getting the skirt message to the general public. Here we are preaching to the converted. On the other hand, posting information on your "wall" on Facebook, we'd reach a wider audience.
"I went to the shops today and my skirt got a lot of compliments" is no news to us, but other men may take notice.
"Unfortunately, I could not find any suitable denim skirt in the men's section of [some well-known shop], so had to search among the women's things" may prove to be an eye-opener.

I don't mean we should stop posting here, of course, nor would it be useful to have a men's skirt group on Facebook (there are already several -- totally inactive!), but it would be a way of putting men's skirts before the gaze of our "friends" and our "friends' " "friends".
("..." because for me a friend is someone quit different from the Facebook use of the word)

There is a lot of rubbish on Fb, but picking and choosing, you can get a lot of information from organizations such as Greenpeace, or through groups discussing the future of the newly liberated people of Tunisia or Egypt, for example.

Martin

[STEVIE]

Hi Martin,
Must admit, I had considered a Fb announcement and haven't yet decided. However, going public and going global are quite different.
Employers and maybe, more importantly, potential employers access facebook with all the associated implications. In an ideal world, truly, it would not matter one little bit, but as we know the world is miles from that.
In reality, I have a few more private tellings to do before that happens but yes, in principle, absolutely good idea.
Steve.

[ChrisM]

There is also a Facebook "entity" named "Men's Skirt's" (sic). I received a friend request from this person (whose real name I haven't found) and I did accept the request. This puts a trickle of skirt-related notes in my FB feed.

Of course, my colleagues and students have seen me in skirts at school plenty, so it's not as if this interest of mine will be a great surprise to any of my friends.

[couyalair]

These are some MUG groups I look at :

les porteurs de kilt francophones
Kilt Society de France
Las mujeres llevamos los pantalones...
Mi falda escocesa también quiere sa...
Porteurs de Kilt
Pour le retour de la jupe dans la g...
Men's Skirt's (Fash'n Freedom)
Women wear pants. Let Men wear skirts.

but, as I said, there's never much activity.

I can understand some men's reluctance to appear skirted in public (because of work conditions, for example), but I can't help feeling it's not a good thing for the psyche having to hide something you like doing.

Martin

[GerdG]

I think Facebook is good – on the individual plan – to tell your friends about your kilt or skirt wearing. For that you have your profile: activities and interests. And you can as often as you wish tell about your impressions or experiences wearing a kilt or a skirt.

It is true that for “professionals” forums might not be necessary. But for new comers they are extremely important. Therefore we have an obligation, I think, to keep forums alive by never give up participating with experiences and advice.

That’s why I’m here and somewhere else. We are not many on this forum. The Kilt Men’s Forum is about to give up. So is a German Forum. Without forums we shall never become more men in kilts or skirts.

Therefore, let us be active HERE, even if it is just about telling how easy it is for a man to wear a skirt.

Greg

[SkirtRevolution]

I think Facebook is good – on the individual plan – to tell your friends about your kilt or skirt wearing. For that you have your profile: activities and interests. And you can as often as you wish tell about your impressions or experiences wearing a kilt or a skirt.

It is true that for “professionals” forums might not be necessary. But for new comers they are extremely important. Therefore we have an obligation, I think, to keep forums alive by never give up participating with experiences and advice.

That’s why I’m here and somewhere else. We are not many on this forum. The Kilt Men’s Forum is about to give up. So is a German Forum. Without forums we shall never become more men in kilts or skirts.

Therefore, let us be active HERE, even if it is just about telling how easy it is for a man to wear a skirt.

Greg

I agree 100%, Its about the new people that are being introduced to men's skirts, they are the ones that will help keep these forum and facebook sites alive until like in japan, young people make men's skirt's a fashion. There are also a lot of people that haven't even considered men wearing skirts and they may be introduced to skirt wearing and encouraged by these forums. The truth is that we have never had such a positive attitude to men wearing skirts until NOW, maybe in the 80s people said it will never happen because it was new, but NOW the attitude have changed. People are saying that it is time for men in skirts and that this fashion is hear to STAY. This is the time for all of the advocates for mens skirts to put another burst of life into these forums as we are at a point now where it can all change.

I started the facebook site "men's Skirt's (Fash'n Freedom). It has only been up for 3 weeks and I have also notice that many of the men's skirts sites on face book are relatively new. I encourage everyone to come and join men's skirts on face book. This is all about making the general public notice that it is in fashion and men from all over are wearing skirts. I am only 29 and still considered part of the young generation. A new generation is starting to take over and promote men's skirt's. All they need to know is that they can wear skirt's as men and then we will start to see it take off. Just have a look at Utilikilt, did you ever think you would see a skirt for men become so popular! Utilikilt is leading the way, lets get passionate again, generate life in these forums.

[couyalair]

Hi, Greg!

You wrote :
"The Kilt Men’s Forum is about to give up."

I hope you did not mean the European Kiltforum. It's going through a slack period, but I don't think it will die just yet. Or is there another forum I had not come across?

By the way, another thing I like about Facebook is that most people use their real names there, unlike forums where everyone goes on hiding behind pseudos.

Martin

[GerdG]

No, Martin, the forum I refer to is this one: http://www.kiltmen.com/forums/cgi-bin/kiltmen.pl with absolutely no activity any longer.

I agree that I also prefer real names, even if I'm myself using a nick name here - part of - and I do avoid forums wehere the member names are too fancy.

Greg

[couyalair]

Ah! the original Bravehearts. I did not recognize the reference.

I used to look in, but found it difficult to use, and not very friendly; too much antagonism between kilts-only and skirts-only gangs, I seem to remember.

I suppose it is inevitable that these web activities flourish for a whil and gradually die. Novelty is what everyone wants.

Martin

[couyalair]

I'd never before made the connexion between GerdG and the Greg I'd met elsewhere. Why do we use these silly names when we could be using our own?

Martin James Sheffield

[GerdG]

Martin,

according to the member’s list I should have registered here 25.10.2003. But that cannot be correct, because I was active on Toms Forum a long long time before that. And it was long before WDP created his MUG and his own forum. I should rather say I joined about 2000.

Never mind, when I registered I was rather cowardice, like most men starting wearing skirts. And accordingly I chose a nickname which wasn’t identical to my real name. Nobody was to find out who I was.

Prior to that I had been wearing kilts for a couple of years, at home and very far from home. Then I found skirt wearing logical and started buying skirts, which I would wear at home and even farther away from home.

I must admit that I never really liked skirts. To me they were too difficult to explain and they gave me nothing I couldn’t have from kilt wearing. Also my wife definitely preferred to see me in kilts, rather than skirts. Accordingly I soon dropped skirts and concentrated on kilt wearing, now closer and closer to home.

I have no plans to go back to skirts. I’m a kilt wearer but not in the traditional sense and I'm far from being a purist. Sometimes I will even wear some short kilted skirts. People take them for kilts. I think it is great that men do wish to find alternatives to pants. And the more we are, whether in skirts – in a manly way - or kilts the better.

Today I do no longer feel tempted to use some odd nickname. Therefore, everywhere else I call me Greg, and so I’ll do here, even if the member list says GerdG.

Greg

[couyalair]

How similar our parcours have been, Greg.

... I joined about 2000.

I can't remember when I discovered kilt-skirt forums, but that was the year I became a daily kilt-wearer.

Whether it was cowardice or not, I cannot say; I just invented a name as that seemed to be the done thing.

Then I found skirt wearing logical and started buying skirts

Good Scottish kilts seemed to be too good for everyday wear for odd jobs at home, and I branched out into non-tartan home made wrap skirts. My wife was not too keen, but did not make a fuss. I never got as far as buying ready-made skirts until the opportunity arose in the charity shop where I have been working.

I too prefer kilts, but they are too hot and heavy for summer down here in the south, and I have been enjoying plain simple skirts more and more. People in Spain find the no wierder than tartan kilts which are girls' school uniform. In France, on the other hand, kilt is recognized as Scottish.

It's nice to learn a little more of your story and compare with mine.

Martin

[skirtyscot]

So, Mr Sheffield, how did you come up with your moniker?

[owen]

So, Mr Sheffield, how did you come up with your moniker?

Some questions are better left unasked ...

[couyalair]

So, Mr Sheffield, how did you come up with your moniker?

Some questions are better left unasked ...

Presumably Owen speaks French!

Martin