What is under the skirt?

[kodiak]

Just a general question that has me thinking, what is under the skirt?. From the men I have known and know that are skirt wears they talk of the freedom and flowiness of it and how pants are so confining but if you look underneith the skirt you still see the same old whitey tighty underwear or something of the like. To me this is contradictive to what is said but don't get me wrong I am not saying that you should be exposed either. Mind you boxers are a pain in the ass when it comes to cramming them into pants. Worked as a CNA in nursing homes and homecare for 12 years and the boxer wears were the worsed to get dressed. Although under a skirt the boxer would and does wear well. This I have done in a pinch when a slip could not be found. Personally I think that if it is freedom from the binding and confinement it doesn't make sense to me to be wearing tight items underneith. Also i understand that for those of you that wear the short skirts it is more practical because you don't want anything peeking out but for those of you that tend to wear them long I just think that you are missing an element of freedom that is all. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[Big and Bashful]

I don't wear anything under skirts, (or under trousers these days), apart from socks and shoes. This does rule out short skirts, but I do like them long so that's ok!
My first skirt was a kilt and I followed the Scottish tradition, it just felt right and still feels right with other skirts. A proper feeling of freedom.

[crfriend]

{sigh}

Note: I am writing this as an individual contributor, not as an admin or moderator.

Why is it that this age-old schoolyard question never seems to go away? Has our curiosity not been sated by the time we reach adulthood? It's also a rather rude question to ask somebody in public unless you're already on intimate terms, and it's done in a whisper.

From a practical perspective, a guy wearing a skirt will likely wear something rather akin to what he wears under his trousers, much the same way that a woman will wear something under her skirt that's rather akin to what she wears when she's wearing trousers. Legwear will vary, of course, and is a perfectly sensible and valid addition to skirted looks which would be hidden under trousers.

Generally speaking, topics of underwear -- items of clothing that are not designed to be explicitly seen by the general public -- are frowned upon here because they can veer off into prurient areas that would not be particularly helpful in getting the general public's attention of having kilts and skirts as viable alternatives to trousers for guys. In short, and the general rules call this out explicitly, "underwear is not public fashion".

Some undergarments, especially those sorts of garments that are designed to alter the shape and behaviour of a skirt (e.g. petticoats/slips/underskirts) are on-topic, as is legwear as that is designed to be on public display, at least below the hemline. "Pnaties" (to use the old alt.fashion USENET slang) are certainly off-topic.

[STEVIE]

I would add to the comments, there is nothing "traditional" about the myth of Scots going "commando" in the kilt. The original Scots Highlanders, who wore the true kilt, shed it to go into battle and fought nearly naked because the the thing was an encumbrance. As an aside they were probably too poor to spend precious resources on fripperies as underwear. The Scots Army perpetuated it, in that serving soldiers had to parade without underwear.
This is truly the only example of this thinking. I won't go any further here but check out some odd sites such as petticoated. com for their description of what was worn under kilts and it is more true and common than many Scotsmen, if they were honest, would care to admit.
In case anybody wonders, I consider myself a true Scot.
Steve
ps this pic was taken 2 years ago it was put together by my sister, the waistcoat has very deep vents, side and back for weaponry accessability. Yep, i am wearing underwear.

[TomH]

I wear the same thing under my skirts that I wore under my trousers and shorts for years... Freedom !

Thanks for joining us Kodiak.

Tom

[Uncle Al]

Steve - Very Nice Outfit

Now.....(sigh) Ummm......(sigh) Errrrrr...(sigh) ......

{Reaching for Mod hat, contemplating a bit, putting it back on the peg.}

OK - I believe that what is under the kilt/skirt, is up to the wearer of
the kilt/skirt and is nobody else's business. As long as 'it' is not meant
to be seen, 'it' is not meant to be discussed.

[edited by author]

Uncle Al

[Since1982]

When I was a child, (7-13 or so) I asked that question prolly a half dozen times of women in our town and never got a nice friendly response. Always a "mind your own business" or worse yet, a slapped face.

My question is: Why would a woman assume that since it's NOT OK to ask that of a woman, how does it become any different when asking it of a man? I think it's none of the questioners business, whether they are man or woman. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[JRMILLER]

Skip,
Nice to see you are still alive! Was wondering about that!

WRT under the kilt / skirt. Me sandals are under me kilt

[Uncle Al]

John - good come back to 'the' question.

Now that we have a humorous attack on 'the' question, how's this....

"Good girls don't ask, Naughty girls find out"

Uncle Al

[AMM]

... what is under the skirt?....

I think you're making the same mistake that those men make who ask "what do women...?" or "why do women ....?" -- you're assuming that men are alike enough (and all different enough from yourself) that they can give you one answer, and that this answer is something that you didn't already know.

In fact, men (like women) are all different, and their choices in underwear (or lack thereof) and their reasons and rationalizations for those choices are as varied as human imagination and experience can make them. That is equally true for the population of guys who wear "unbifurcated" garments (kilts, skirts, etc.) BTW, the guys here at SkirtCafe are only a very small sample of guys who go "unbifurcated," and probably not a representative one, either.

Also, men and women are actually the same species (this is news for a lot of people out there!) and have pretty much the same range of thought processes, and so the range of underwear "choices and reasons" that you'll find among men is pretty similar to the range you'll find among women. In fact, I'd say that the considerations are pretty much the same for men and women, especially if you define "underwear" for women as including bras. (I won't go into any more detail, lest I risk getting hit by a bolt of moderator lightning, but if you think about it, you'll get my point.) So if you were to ask all your women friends and acquaintances about their choices in this area, you'd get pretty much the same set of answers as you'd get from skirt-wearing men.

[kodiak]

Well this naughty girl has found out what is under Skirteds kilt and skirt and also likes what she sees. I only asked because I personally think that it is an oxymorron that one talks of freedom with wearing kilt/skirt and then ties himself down with a pair of tight underwear. I personally support you guys out there and love seeing a man in a skirt/kilt. I understand the binding problem because years ago the mens pants were constructed so that the left leg was slightly larger near the crotch area to make room for the third leg. Now they don't do that except in the high end markets, all the affortible stuff is made to be more unisex and that is how they keep the price of stuff down, because the manufacturer can use the same pattern for both mens and womens and just change minor things.

[alsachti]

Personally, I wear undergarments under my skirt, just because I do not feel the need to do otherwise.
Also, I would be afraid to have an erection,which is not a problem when you are wearing pants and/or undergarments, but is difficult to hide with a skirt without undergarments.

[rick401r]

I always thought it was odd that anyone would ask what I was wearing under my kilt. Women especially, not only ask, but sometimes try to lift my kilt to get a peek. Not that I minded, that's half the fun of wearing a kilt in public.. But if I were to ask a female what she was wearing under her skirt or try to lift a hem for a peek I would be arrested or at the very least maced or slapped in the face.

[crfriend]

But if I were to ask a female what she was wearing under her skirt or try to lift a hem for a peek I would be arrested or at the very least maced or slapped in the face.

This phenomenon is likely down to many modern societies' view that men are little more than aggressive sex-mad Neanderthals who are dangerous and only exist to bother women. The view is, of course, deeply flawed and points up a whopper of a double-standard but it's sadly one that seems to have quite a lot of buy-in, especially if one watches much of the evening news.

When I was growing up, I was taught that asking "the question" was something rude and not to be done, regardless of whether someone is on "best behaviour" or not, and I carry that with me to this day. In this regard, I feel my parents did a good job with me.

There's another term for underwear -- "intimate apparel" -- which points things up pretty well when it comes to whom to share the notion with; these are the sorts of garments that are only appropriate to be seen by others with whom you share an intimate relationship with. That is, of course, if we can get beyond the stereotypical male swilling cheap beer and watching football whilst dressed in nothing but his skivvies, but to give that man his due, he's likely doing that at home and not at a local bar.

AMM makes a valid point that there are probably more similarities than differences in what guys wear "under" and what women do -- at least on the lower part -- and the main differences are likely ones of fabric or detail. And all are similarly boring once one gets inured to them.

But, it is this writer's opinion that asking somebody -- or worse, trying to physically find out -- is just plain bad manners. For both men and women. Similarly, broadcasting what you've got on "under" smacks of exhibitionism which has its own pile of baggage attached to it.

[TomH]

I hoped to hear from Skip. GOOD deal that you have the energy to type a few words, sir.

Tom