Skirts for men in Designer's 2011 line

[Saturna]

Once again we have a lot of skirts being designed for men in the big fashion shows. I found this blog that posts lots of pictures.

I hate pants. I mean I really hate them. They make sense for girls and their anatomy but are absolutely ridiculous for the male body. It's torture. Plus, I think pants are a lot more revealing. Especially the tight pants popular again today. Somehow horribly tight jeans are okay but tights and a skirt or dress is gay/tranny/etc. I don't like having my junk be visible, and that's how it is with every pair of pants. A kilt or skirt, no problem at all. I'm so sick of the hypocrisy.
Plus, there is no crossdressing anymore. How can there be? Girls where every single clothes item imaginable. They even have underwear called "boy shorts" with a fly for a man's parts! Yet they aren't called cross-dressers. Just about every girl I see anymore is wearing jeans. Seriously. Fine girls, have all the jeans.

Furthermore men can wear makeup and be sexual and sexy if that's what they want as well. Why not? Being sensual and sexy is part of being a human being, but in today's world it's like you have to be female to have feelings, or beauty. Women can wear fake hair, fake eyebrows, fake boobs, even fake asses. They paint their faces up to look like something they are not. But if a guy wears a toupee or attempts to express beauty at all, it's a big joke, or he's a tranny or gay. Nothing wrong with gayness, but nobody wants to be called or thought of something they aren't.

Go back a few centuries and it's actually men who were wore short, fancy skirts, tights, even high heel shoes were on men first. That's not my thing, but what it represents is that no longer are all human beings allowed to dress in fineries or express themselves unless they have a vagina. It's BS. All of it. For God's sake at the most basic we're talking about a stitch of thread separating a piece of fabric. Are you $#&*ing kidding me? It's a sick joke. Revolution time.

I didn't mean to ramble, but it just happens because I am so angry and passionate on the issue of males and freedom of expression.

Anyway here's the link to the blog with the pics-

http://kavanaghlove.blogspot.com/2010_0 ... chive.html

[owen]

Yeah, it's a crazy unjust world. Let's just wear what makes sense and f*** the begrudgers; they'll eventually come around to our way of thinking.

Thanks for the link. The skirts are about the most sensible things in that lineup; most of the rest just looks ridiculous.

[JohnH]

Go back a few centuries and it's actually men who were wore short, fancy skirts, tights, even high heel shoes were on men first. That's not my thing, but what it represents is that no longer are all human beings allowed to dress in fineries or express themselves unless they have a vagina. It's BS. All of it. For God's sake at the most basic we're talking about a stitch of thread separating a piece of fabric. Are you $#&*ing kidding me? It's a sick joke. Revolution time.

I'm the one who wears skirts, dresses, and high heels as opposed to my wife, who wears only pants and flat shoes. However, I don't attempt to pass as a woman. I even have a pair of sandals with 4 inch stiletto heels!

Thanks for the link. The skirts are about the most sensible things in that lineup; most of the rest just looks ridiculous.

Maybe there is an effort to make the wearing of pants less desirable than wearing skirts.

[Since1982]

I think that entire display is just showing off that black and white bubble covered material. As usual, it mostly looks weird. I do wish the big fashion houses would come out with a man/men's skirt that looks usable in normal life instead of only fashion shows. Yuk

[Colin]

I agree with "Since1982". All too often the "Fashion Designers" are just creating CATWALK fodder. We need Men's skirts that ordinary men would be happy to wear in everyday life. I imagine that many SkirtCafe members are wearing far better skirts than the big fashion houses can create. The fashion giants could be working against our cause by producing such weird clothing.

[crfriend]

I imagine that many SkirtCafe members are wearing far better skirts than the big fashion houses can create. The fashion giants could be working against our cause by producing such weird clothing.

I do not suspect that the "fashion houses" are so much working against getting the notion of skirted looks on guys accepted but are rather "blowing their own horns" about how avant-garde they can be.

The sad thing about being avant-garde is that it usually garners one ridicule if one wears such things "out and about" in the general populace.

Which brings us to Colin's first sentence which brings things into better perspective -- I'll bet money that the average chap who frequents this space can put together something that will look natural and non-contrived ("believeable") in an everyday setting. I know I can do it, because I do it for work, I do it for fun, and I do it for whimsy (for different millieux, mind you). Anybody else who's a familiar here is doing the same thing, and I rather doubt that we're doing it for "shock and awe" the way "designers" are.

I'd file the usual whine about "Why can't anybody design a practical skirt for guys and market them to guys", but I'm tiring of that argument because it's circular reasoning. Either a market exists or it doesn't; creating one is a nigh-well impossible task (although, to give credit its due, it's been done in the past); however, this writer's opinion is that if we want to start opening the public's mind to the option we need to stand up -- and stick out -- and assert our style choice as a viable one. If we make it a compelling and an attractive look it may catch on.

It's worth noting that guys can get away with less pocket-space than they currently sport by making rational decisions as to what they really need to carry. Options exist that allow one to make do with a lot less pocket-space than is usually available in a pair of trousers.

[Kirbstone]

Speaking of pockets...When out and about kilted, the sporran is all one has, and that's a lot smaller than multiple pockets. Certainly one needs to prioritise contents in there. Anything else can stay in the car!
I am aghast at what women carry around in their 'designer' handbags. I quip sometimes, referring to the Crown Jewels, which usually gets a laugh. You see, in my job I meet on average a half-dozen well dressed ladies per day, and the handbags keep getting bigger and more ostentatious.

[Mugs-n-such]

Speaking of pockets...When out and about kilted, the sporran is all one has, and that's a lot smaller than multiple pockets. Certainly one needs to prioritise contents in there. Anything else can stay in the car!
I am aghast at what women carry around in their 'designer' handbags. I quip sometimes, referring to the Crown Jewels, which usually gets a laugh. You see, in my job I meet on average a half-dozen well dressed ladies per day, and the handbags keep getting bigger and more ostentatious.

This might almost be off-topic, but again, speaking of pockets, I've found one solution: if the weather is cold and I'm wearing a skirt with no pockets, I just use my jacket pockets for my wallet and keys, and that's about all I need!

[crfriend]

I just use my jacket pockets for my wallet and keys, and that's about all I need!

Jacket pockets, at least suit- or sport- jacket pockets, are easy targets for pickpockets if you're in an urban setting so beware.

Historically, I've carried my wallet in a hip pocket as those are typically a bit harder to pilfer from. Now, this has changed somewhat since I've started wearing skirts (although some have hip-pockets which work quite well) and I find I'm carrying my wallet in my shirt-pocket quite often (I tend to wear waistcoats so this does not look as awkward as it sounds) when I don't have "lower pockets". It's all about adaptation. Thinner wallets in this case are a "win".

On the occasions when I'm not wearing a waistcoat, I tend to pick skirts that have hip-pockets and carry my wallet in one of those. For the times I am most heavily encumbered with "luggables" (e.g. on my way to the boat for a sail and back again) I make sure I have a secure pocket for my wallet, carry my keys on a lanyard about my neck, and everything else in a tote-bag (trousers, just in case, lunch, a couple of pints of Guinness, &c). The tote-bag lightens over the course of the day and I've not yet had a hassle on the way home.

[Mugs-n-such]

Thanks for the warning about pickpockets. I hadn't thought about that to be honest, when I do use my jacket to carry my wallet I usually keep it close, although I'm sure that's no guarantee, especially against a skilled thief. It may seem funny but when wearing pants, I usually keep my wallet in a front pocket because I've heard that it's more secure against pickpockets that way and also because my wallet tends to be on the fat side (though not with bills, woe worth the day) and I've also heard that when you sit on a fat wallet like that it can actually cause spinal problems.
You have quite an idea with the tote bag. I'm sure I've got one somewhere, too, if I can find it, maybe I'll use that to carry my wallet and keys next time I'm out in a skirt with no pockets. Good idea! I've also heard some guys discussing on this forum or the other, I think, that a camera bag can be used because it doesn't resemble a woman's purse...much.

[Kirbstone]

The great thing about a sporran is you can't sit on it, for one, and any pick-pocket would have to adopt the 'frontal' aproach, which is a no-no.

My pre-sailing activity invariably involves wheeling a laden trolley down the ramp and along the floating gangways to reach the boat. Yes, pints of Guinness tend to be on the 'bill of lading', but also considerable quantities of Gin & Tonic for those with whom I tend to sail.

[Since1982]

Nearly all my skirts have beltloops and belts. When I'm going somewhere that I need to carry "stuff" like drivers license, money, keys etc. I have sewn some pouches that are approx. 4" wide by 10" long with a zipper on each end. I put one end of the pouch under the belt and fold the other end down in the front so I can hold it upright and unzip it to access whatever is inside aka keys, money etc. My pouches are all made of lightweight leather on the outside and fleece on the inside.

[Mugs-n-such]

So, Skip, you made those pouches yourself? Now that's very interesting, what a talent. That makes me wonder, is leather very hard to sew? I had thought about giving it a try myself but thought that it might require too much muscle. Since you can sew, another idea is, to sew pockets onto your skirt. I had thought about that myself but I wouldn't want to do it on a pleated skirt because I think it would ruin the look. I guess another consideration is how good you can sew, if you could sew a pocket onto a skirt where it looked professional that would be cool, but I guess nobody would want to ruin their skirts' looks.
Kirbstone, the only time I drank gin was when a lady gave me a sip, and to be honest I liked the taste of it. The only reason I haven't bought more of it, it seems kind of expensive, up there with rum. Unless, of course, you buy the rot gut stuff which I would rather shy away from. Guiness is OK, but I didn't care a whole lot for it, maybe because it was from the bottle. I think I've heard that it's better straight from the tap, so I'll have to try it that way sometime, hopefully soon. Cheers!

[Since1982]

I drank Gin years ago when I was hustling pool for a living. It has no smell and it's very difficult to tell if it's been cut or not. I went to beer and wine + BYOB bars where they'd label and shelve your bottle until you were ready to leave. I'd bring a half bottle of "gin" that was only 5% gin and 95% water, so I'd seem to be drinking as much as everyone else, getting as drunk as everyone else, BUT not getting drunk at all. I'd swerve around the room, bumping into things and people, slurring my words and hiccupping but oddly not missing many shots, and when I did miss, the oddest thing would happen, I'd not leave the other guy anything he could make. Amazing luck I had...chuckle

[Mugs-n-such]

I drank Gin years ago when I was hustling pool for a living. It has no smell and it's very difficult to tell if it's been cut or not. I went to beer and wine + BYOB bars where they'd label and shelve your bottle until you were ready to leave. I'd bring a half bottle of "gin" that was only 5% gin and 95% water, so I'd seem to be drinking as much as everyone else, getting as drunk as everyone else, BUT not getting drunk at all. I'd swerve around the room, bumping into things and people, slurring my words and hiccupping but oddly not missing many shots, and when I did miss, the oddest thing would happen, I'd not leave the other guy anything he could make. Amazing luck I had...chuckle

Oooh, Skip, you devil you! However, that does sound like a good way to avoid getting drunk and all the nastiness that comes with it...DUI's, hangovers, and in at least one case where I let it happen to me, throwing up. YUCK. Not fun at all. I love to drink, but I hate to get drunk. I usually just have a beer or two before beddy-bye time or failing that maybe a glass of wine or the infamous eggnog and tequila/vodka/rum. Over the holidays I had more than I usually do...two or three glasses of eggnog and rum. Maybe that's why I was posting so much over the holidays. I need to be careful, Uncle Al might get me for spamming. But no, usually just one glass before I go to bed and that helps me sleep.