Judith Culpepper

[cessna152towser]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... tml?page=1
I don't know who "Judith Culpepper" is but this is a good article.

[Big and Bashful]

Yep, a good article, not a pisstake for a change. Respect is due!

[Since1982]

Excellent article. YAY Judith!

[Departed Member]

Well, apart from the monumental gaffe ("Some of the manliest men ever known spent their entire lives in skirts. William Wallace, for example. There's a man who never attempted to free Scotland from English tyranny without his trusty kilt."), quite a fair assessment, I'd agree!

The gaffe? Wallace was a Sassenach, for goodness sake! If truth be known, he never even visited the 'real' Highlands, never mind wore a Kilt. Sassenachs wearing Kilts are a very modern trend, and long may that trend continue!!!!!!!! Anything that gets up the noses of the SNP is fine by me!

[Since1982]

Well said Merlin. I was gonna get around to the Wallace myth too. Wallace DID wear a skirt tho, at least in the Scottish statue of him, it wasn't a kilt, just a loose knee length skirt. One thing from the movie I did like and have given a name...It's probably completely fake and not even a myth, but the bit where all of Wallaces men turned around and lifted their kilts to show the Brits their posteriors. I like to refer to that as "The Wallace Salute"...hehe

[Uncle Al]

In the Bravehart movie, I think that 'Wallace' wore a Great Kilt
instead of the Breacon. The Breacon, as we know it, is the
'little kilt'. It has pleats all around, except in the front where
the kilt aprons overlap each other. A Great Kilt was only about
60 inches wide, and was hand pleated on the floor. Thus, not many pleats in back.
A belt was placed under the kilt, the 'gent' laid on the floor, overlapped
the 'aprons', buckled the belt and got up off of the floor. The amount
of material that was above the belt was brought around the waist and up over the
opposite shoulder, then draped down the back towards the hip.
This became the 'Sash' for the kilt. Now, people will wear a 'breacon'
and add a 'Fly-Plaid' to simulate a Sash.

This is why I think that 'Wallace' looked like he was wearing a skirt
instead of a kilt.

Just my 2 cents worth......

BTW--Great Article

Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[Mipi]

One of the best articles, for sure. Bravo!

[cessna152towser]

Thread drifted off original topic but even before Braveheart there were conflicting views here in Scotland as to what clothes Wallace would have worn.

The Wallace monument in Ayr interprets him as wearing mediaeval body armour.

While this Wallace statue near where I live illustrates him in a kilt and carrying a sword and targe.

[r.m.anderson]

Very interesting article.

But if our program is ever going to have worthy mention it is going to have come from somewhere
other than the fashion runway.

Everyday wearing is going to be the place to start.

AND - - -
Thanks cessna152towser for adding another word to my dictionary; "TARGE".

Wikipedia Link:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... en&q=TARGE

Targe = a Shield

The quest for knowledge is made easier with the search functions of the internet.

rm

[Since1982]

1.The Great Kilt or Breacan Feile , in Gaelic "Kilted Tartan". The original style of kilt worn from long before Rob Roy to The '45 and into the modern day. Traditionally made from 4 1/2 to 6 yards of double width tartan fabric, depending on waist measurement. This kilt is not hemmed or stitched . The great kilt is pleated each time you wear it with the top half of the tartan draped over the shoulder or tucked in the back.

2.The filleadh beag or little kilt is the modern rendition of the more commonly known kilt.

1. Breacan = great kilt
2. Filleadh Beag = little kilt
There is two more statues, at least, of William Wallace wearing an English style tunic of the time with a full mail suit on under his tunic. It looks like a loose skirt but is actually a tunic. His monster sword is there tho. AND a statue of him with "Braveheart" on his shield and Mel Gibson's face on the statue. The Scots are incensed over this one. Here they are.

The English looking one is first, the one with Mel Gibson's face is second.

Finishing up this topic I hope.