men in skirts t shirt idea

[Barleymower]

I'm simply saying that a lone t-shirt with a quirky message might be nice individually - I don't see it having broad social impact.

The most important impact that we are expressing ourselves against all the hate that is expressed against us. We are not bottling up are feelings. This is important in keeping are mental health. Even if are slogan T-shirts doesn't persuade others to join MIS, it helps in keeping are own peace of mind and that is crucial.

It's a fair point Mr S

[rode_kater]

The best way to do that isn't with slogans plastered on a t-shirt or a sticker, but simply standing up, raising high the middle finger (or the Power fist), and OWNING the matter.

That works for us, but what can the people who stand with us do?

It's similar to the Pride flag. If you are actually LBGT then you can own it (possibly in danger of your life), but for everyone else they need something to latch on. If you don't like gays, you can assault them in the street. Don't like lesbians, you can jeer at them. If you don't like trans-people, you can spew vitriol on social media. But if you want to support LGBT you don't do those things but that's not very visible. Treating people as human beings is simply not visible.

So, they have a flag. It's just a symbol, but symbols are powerful things. It gives supporters something to rally around to show actual support even though they're not a member. The LGBT community is perhaps 5% of the population, we're much less. So if we want people other than MIS to be able to show support, we're going to need something. Probably not a t-shirt or sticker, but perhaps we can think of something?