Barometer

[Jim]

I don’t see the attraction of denim skirts or plain material

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

[Mouse]

I don’t see the attraction of denim skirts or plain material

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

I love the feel of silky light skirts made out of a range of materials from silk to 0.2mm latex, but I also realise that when on a building site, these materials are not suitable and denim is an excellent choice for my working skirts.

So if you are a guy wearing skirts everyday, I think you naturally need a range of skirts made from a range of fabrics in a range of styles and lengths. If you are only wearing skirts for fun, then you can just wear skirts in your favourite style, length and material. Both are right, depending on your own choice and circumstance.

[Barleymower]

17k knock off kilts and 2200 mens skirts. Thus proving the knock off kilt is not a skirt. It isn't a kilt either.
Btw i'm not a fan of 'mens skirts' they are nearly all boring althougth i totslly get why men wear them.

The kilt, knock off or, modern facsimile is a skirt!
The retailers and wearers just can't come to terms with it. one for money and the other with a shaky take on masculinity.
I've said before, the perfect stealth skirt, hidden in plain sight for the guy who is unable to admit what he really wants.
Hell, yesterday I was walking down our main street in a dark green a-line skirt with knee length tan boots and a lady asked what kind of kilt I was wearing.
She was definitely Scots so I told her, the truth!
Steve.

I should have been more carefull with my language Steve.
For the record my view is:
1. A kilt is skirt
2. There's no such thing as women's clothes.
3. Anyone who denies men from wearing the clothes they choose is a bigot of the worst kind.

This post was only ever meant to show that how tilted the whole thing is no matter what way you want to see it.

[Dust]

I don’t see the attraction of denim skirts or plain material

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

I love the feel of silky light skirts made out of a range of materials from silk to 0.2mm latex, but I also realise that when on a building site, these materials are not suitable and denim is an excellent choice for my working skirts.

So if you are a guy wearing skirts everyday, I think you naturally need a range of skirts made from a range of fabrics in a range of styles and lengths. If you are only wearing skirts for fun, then you can just wear skirts in your favourite style, length and material. Both are right, depending on your own choice and circumstance.

Correction: you need the tough fabrics like denim, all others are a luxury.

At least in my experience, guys are taught (implicitly or explicitly) that they can't have luxuries for themselves, and still be a "Real Man™."

[SatinDea]

At least in my experience, guys are taught (implicitly or explicitly) that they can't have luxuries for themselves, and still be a "Real Man™."

At this time of year luxury “party clothes” that women can wear are sparkly, made from softer materials and more appealing to the eye. Instead of tights they might wear stockings to feel special. The man is left with a Xmas jumper as an alternative to everyday clothes.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a party where all the attendees were in party dresses and no questions asked. Some of the skirted males on Instagram in Europe seem to manage a bit of luxury. Genderblender seems to manage luxury clothing whilst on city visits, ballroom dancing and concerts. Most of his dresses and skirts are my preferred option. He’s a lucky guy as he is often photographed with his wife who also dresses very well,

They look lovely as a couple.

[Grok]

At least in my experience, guys are taught (implicitly or explicitly) that they can't have luxuries for themselves, and still be a "Real Man™."

Never cared about being a "Real Man." For me this means being a square peg in a round hole.

[Mouse]

At this time of year luxury “party clothes” that women can wear are sparkly, made from softer materials and more appealing to the eye.

It is amazing what you can "get away with" wearing a "party skirt" with some big boots and a chunky top.... "Dressing down" the "party skirt" as fashion people would put it. All you need is the Nike slogan and a bucket of confidence....easy to write I know....but do able.

As for being a

"Real Man™."

I think that ship sailed for me many years ago, even if it ever existed.

[Grok]

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

If someone asked me what sort of skirt should be marketed towards men, I would suggest a rugged denim skirt. A skirt intended for physical labor.

I suspect that there is a potential market, at least as a niche product. Perhaps enough potential demand to sustain a small company.

[Barleymower]

At this time of year luxury “party clothes” that women can wear are sparkly, made from softer materials and more appealing to the eye.

It is amazing what you can "get away with" wearing a "party skirt" with some big boots and a chunky top.... "Dressing down" the "party skirt" as fashion people would put it. All you need is the Nike slogan and a bucket of confidence....easy to write I know....but do able.

As for being a

"Real Man™."

I think that ship sailed for me many years ago, even if it ever existed.

What kind of manly qualities are needed mouse to be a real man?

[Mouse]

What kind of manly qualities are needed mouse to be a real man?

When I was growing up, you needed a horse, a cowboy hat and a packet of Marlboro.....

[yardstick]

What kind of manly qualities are needed mouse to be a real man?

When I was growing up, you needed a horse, a cowboy hat and a packet of Marlboro.....

And Happiness was a cigar called Hamlet.

[yardstick]

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

If someone asked me what sort of skirt should be marketed towards men, I would suggest a rugged denim skirt. A skirt intended for physical labor.

I suspect that there is a potential market, at least as a niche product. Perhaps enough potential demand to sustain a small company.

Here lies the problem with statistics as there are already one or two companies doing this but the biggest issue is that any niche market item tends to be at least twice the price of something almost identical already available on the other side of the aisle so anyone who is already a wearer tends to buy from there if they can find what they want which of course is absolutely fine but it will go undetected in any statistical analysis.

[Dust]

At least in my experience, guys are taught (implicitly or explicitly) that they can't have luxuries for themselves, and still be a "Real Man™."

At this time of year luxury “party clothes” that women can wear are sparkly, made from softer materials and more appealing to the eye. Instead of tights they might wear stockings to feel special. The man is left with a Xmas jumper as an alternative to everyday clothes.

In the States, we call them "ugly Christmas sweaters" and with good reason. They may be festive, and even social for this time of year but luxury they aren't. Many aren't even comfortable.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a party where all the attendees were in party dresses and no questions asked. Some of the skirted males on Instagram in Europe seem to manage a bit of luxury. Genderblender seems to manage luxury clothing whilst on city visits, ballroom dancing and concerts. Most of his dresses and skirts are my preferred option. He’s a lucky guy as he is often photographed with his wife who also dresses very well,

They look lovely as a couple.

Social media rarely reflects day-to-day reality, but yes they do seem to be happy and able to attend such things. I believe he is a member here and posted a few times.

That said, I was more referring to the little luxuries in normal life. Even quality synthetic fabrics in normal menswear have only recently become widely available. As their practicality has become understood, and men have been introduced to them through athletic gear, they have slowly crept into men's daily wear, primarily in forms that look like fabrics and styles that were already accepted. Before that, similar fabrics were more quickly adopted by women simply because they looked or felt nice as little luxuries that women were free to choose for themselves.

As for being a

"Real Man™."

I think that ship sailed for me many years ago, even if it ever existed.

What kind of manly qualities are needed mouse to be a real man?

That's the thing, it's like water: ever moving, never the same, can't pin it down, slips right through your fingers... Meaning it can't ever be achieved with any certainty.

[Dust]

They are sturdier, and often have better pockets. I do a lot of physical work outside as I'm a farmer. Denim and other strong fabric makes the skirts last longer, and I don't need to work about protecting the clothing as I work; the clothing protects me, instead.

If someone asked me what sort of skirt should be marketed towards men, I would suggest a rugged denim skirt. A skirt intended for physical labor.

I suspect that there is a potential market, at least as a niche product. Perhaps enough potential demand to sustain a small company.

Here lies the problem with statistics as there are already one or two companies doing this but the biggest issue is that any niche market item tends to be at least twice the price of something almost identical already available on the other side of the aisle so anyone who is already a wearer tends to buy from there if they can find what they want which of course is absolutely fine but it will go undetected in any statistical analysis.

In some ways, a higher pricetag for the men's version is good. Nearly everything for men gets adopted, co-opted, then reclassified by/for women, then men stop wearing them. Paying a premium keeps it as a men's item, at least for a bit longer. Also keeps it a niche item that less men try out, so it's a double edged sword...

[Grok]

any niche market item tends to be at least twice the price of something almost identical already available on the other side of the aisle so anyone who is already a wearer tends to buy from there if they can find what they want

Another possibility is to convert mens jeans into a skirt. There are a couple threads about this in the sewing section.