Musings on Casual vs. "Dress up"

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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I know what you mean about migrane - fortunately in my life I have had only 4. First really freaked me out - it was like looking through water. But I found if you calmed down and relaxed they went away as quickly as they came.

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I agree with the dressing up sometimes. I commented on this girl who was walking down State st. SLC, UT and she had on what looked to be like bed clothes, just like she had recently risen from bed. I told her (gf) that I was actually really tired of seeing people like this, especially at her age. I mean it's fine in college, I expected that in a way, but this is out of college going on 30 type of person and attitude. This tells me that she cares nothing about the way people see her and she can't bend for anything, her schedule is pretty much locked into what she wants to do in the day and would tell a potential employer that she needs these hours because she always visits her friend at this time and watches this show at this time.

I know I'm judged when I walk somewhere, people have an instinct to look you over when you're standing there just looking when you're talking something similar. So that's why I try to dress as well as I can, except when I'm doing something dirty. When I'm in a skirt, I also try to dress well and match because if someone's going to see me in one, I might as well make the best impression that I can.

What I'm doing now is wearing tighter clothes out (like workout stuff) so people get the idea that they'll some me in some unusual stuff and not to be concerned. As well, one of the thing I like about where I live now are people have a higher net worth (most of them) than surrounding towns, and even though that doesn't guarantee acceptance, it does at least give a hope that they're not to judge or criticize too quickly about what I look like. Right now I have short hair, some side burns, shaved legs (you can see scar marks on them), but I don't look anything feminine and I think that helps.
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I'd like to post a "what if" scenario that is actually real.

On the 14th of next month is the Grand Opening of the Hanover Center for the Performing Arts in Worcester, MA. The Hanover Center is a full restoration of what used to be the Worcester Opera House.

It is a splendid space with rich red chairs, gilt ceilings crystal chandeliers and stained glass.

Worcester itself is a working class city with 13 colleges and universities, but it has some well to do areas and suburbs.

The Hanover Center is part f a general restoration of downtown, but some spaces are pretty sad and you wouldn't want to be there at night.

What would you wear for opening night?
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since it's a performance arts place that should be open to modern interpretations of things and well general artistic open-mindedness. I would wear a skirt, but a (if it's cold) nicer sweater and shoes that fit the outfit.
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What I would wear.

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Sapphire,

I'ld wear my Irish National Tartan Kilt, Prince Charlie coat and vest,
dress sporran, fly plaid and kilt hose w/flashes. This to honor the Irish
Heritage of the area. I also would hope that the Wurlitzer Theatre Pipe
Organ was fully restored and played at the Grand Re-Opening.
(I hear that is one of the planned activities.)

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I respond-The why is F.T.H.O.I. (For The H--- Of It)
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Yet another free-associative rant by AMM

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(I'm free-associating again -- head for the hills!)
sapphire wrote:On the 14th of next month is the Grand Opening of the Hanover Center for the Performing Arts in Worcester, MA. The Hanover Center is a full restoration of what used to be the Worcester Opera House.
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What would you wear for opening night?
Hmm. I'd have to give this some thought. Probably something I don't have (yet!) -- maybe a long wool skirt with a matching jacket and tie....

But ... to go back to the grab-bag of thoughts that led to my original post in this thread, (which, due to the wonders of thread-drift, means that the following is by now totally and radically off-topic):

I think that the idea of perfect strangers getting together and relating to one another as if they were not perfect strangers -- as if they might be autonomous creatures capable of directly participating in give-and-take with one another and thereby forming that wonderfully complex phenomenon we call community, even if only for one evening -- is a wonderful thing.

And a subversively satisfying poke in the eye to all the cultural forces that would entice us to shed our human heritage and mindlessly suck at the teat of Big Media.

(Anybody remember the words to Sounds of Silence?)
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I would come as I am

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It is funny how one little thing can change an entire outfit.

One day at college I noticed that my leggings I had on had acquired a mud spot on the cuff of one of the legs. This to me made them look awful, so I pulled the cuffs up to just below the knee. Essentially making them 3/4 capris. Well one of my friend's noticed this and stated that it looked very feminine. I explained why I did it, and she said, to not worry about the spot, and pull the cuffs back down.

I guess it was because my lower legs were visible or something.

It would seem some things have changed if a guy can wear 2/4 leggings out and about.
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Quote :
To be sure, looking sharp used to carry far more weight than it does now, and some of that may fall into the "I have respect for those around me, and I care what they think of me".
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Well , I was raised on this principle , by my parents , and ended up , my life beeing micro-managed by others !!!
I think , situations are what dictates beeing dressed up or casual ...
As long as somebody isn't dressed sloppy , I'm not sure how it's possible to cause disrespect to someone , because of what we wear !!!
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In any case , the degree of ; personality , diplomacy , cleverness , quick-witted , empathy , sociability , politeness and touch , will always take over the image projected from what we wear !!!
I other words , whatever we wear , It's the vibes we generate around us that makes a difference ...
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I like to point out , that by expressing my opinions , I'm aware that I do not hold the "holy truth" about everything ...
No more than somebody else ...
In fact , I think that what works for me , doesn't really works for somebody else , and vice-versa ...
It's up to each of us to find up what works for themselves , and by understanding this principle , it becomes easy to respect everybody else opinions ...
When you look good , you can go anywhere !!!
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darling sapphire,

my choice woild be head-to-toe black, a splash of vibrant color (red scarf, turquoise jewelry, dark blue top, etc...), perfectly done face, and heels that make noise!

oh, and a concealed oak kubotan! VERY effective.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... category0=
sapphire wrote:I'd like to post a "what if" scenario that is actually real.

On the 14th of next month is the Grand Opening of the Hanover Center for the Performing Arts in Worcester, MA.

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What would you wear for opening night?
you know... george orwell warned us!
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AMM,
Yes, I do remember the words to The Sounds of Silence, Even saw them perform live at Princeton.

WHen you say
mindlessly suck at the teat of Big Media.
Are you referring to a series of essays written in the early 1970s by Harlan Ellison and originally published in the LA Free Press? The essays were compiled into a book called The Glass Teat. It was followed in the late 1970s by another book The Other Glass Teat

R1G0R,
Your idea for an outfit sounds just fine: all black with a vivid splash
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sapphire wrote:Yes, I do remember the words to The Sounds of Silence,
But do you ever feel like you're living them?

I do, these days, every time I look around.
sapphire wrote:Are you referring to a series of essays written in the early 1970s by Harlan Ellison ... [in]... a book called The Glass Teat?
I've never read this, but I'm sort of a Harlan Ellison fan. Maybe I should dig up a copy....
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But do you ever feel like you're living them?
Ever since it was released, with the exception of the early years at Data General. We were all cowyboys then.

I think you['d enjoy The Glass Teat..
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speaking of the media teat...

the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy song "television, the drug of a nation" pretty much voices my opinion of tv (television, not transvestites).

their video for the song features a young child being mesmerised by the one-eyed monster.
you know... george orwell warned us!
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sapphire wrote:...the Grand Opening of the Hanover Center for the Performing Arts in Worcester, MA. < snip >

What would you wear for opening night?
I missed this previously, but think that an event like this might be just what I need to indulge myself in a new formal outfit that I could use for job interviews, weddings, posh balls or simply taking the delightful Mrs Milfmog for a flashy meal.

I really fancy a charcoal or black kilt suit from 21st Century Kilts (or something similar) I think I'd probably do without the waistcoat and compensate with a brightly coloured formal shirt open necked or with a cravat or a tie depending on how formal I wanted to be. The only downer is that I'm not sure I could justify the price to myself but hopefully by doing away with the waistcoat I could negotiate the price down to a level I could live with.

Have fun,


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