Nightshirts?

[SkirtDude]

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[Peter v]

I don't know about longer but I have had a number of women's blouses and dresses fit me in the waist and chest but be too snug around the upper arms.

Jes, women's shirts, etc are made with arm lengths that are a bit shorter than needed for men. Also the arm width is often tioght on a man's arm, as women's arms are generally a bit smaller than men's, AND the snit for women is generally a snug fit, accentuating a slender line. I have the same problem, find a beautiful blouse, ( women's) and the arms don't fit, can't bend my arms forward without having the back of the shirt / blouse becomming very tight, restricting movement.

Only occasionally does the snit allow for a man's posture. I am not a heavily built man, and I often talk about these things with women in clothing stores, and they all say, that there are many women ( here in the Netherlands there are many reasonably long and sturdy women, without being overly built, just being a bit sturdier than the confection size) who also cannot find suitably fitting clothing.

The clothing is made on a chosen confection size. Not particularly chosen to fit most if not all normally sized women of that region, and thus not men.

Evening gowns, night gowns etc are generally made with a larger snit, being more roomier, thus accepting most PEOPLE, irregardless of sex.

Thus wearing a woman's night gown should be of no problem for men. The arm length would be a bit short, but that is of little consequence in bed.

I just love the colourfulness of women's night gowns and clothing in general, so either plain or designed, they are a great Item to wear in bed.

I have a few night gowns, not expensive brand names, and enjoy their freedon. I wear now a "normal " pyjama, jacket and pants, from flannel, as this is nice and warm. It is a women's pyjama, this one was not expensive, and has a nice happy pattern on it. I don't like men's pyjamas much, they make me think of jail clotghing, dull and bland. But that is a personal choice.

As we do not want to LOOK as women, that is of no point, because many women seem to wear shirts and shorts as men do, and why not?

Peter v.

[Big and Bashful]

Peter,
I apologise if this is just a language difference, but what is a "snit", it is a term I haven't come across before.

[AMM]

Peter,
I apologise if this is just a language difference, but what is a "snit", it is a term I haven't come across before.

I'm guessing it's the Dutch word for "cut". At least, in German, the word "Schnitt" (=cut) would be appropriate here.

For the same reason, I would assume that "confection" is probably Dutch, but I can't think of an English translation for it.

[Sylvain]

For the same reason, I would assume that "confection" is probably Dutch, but I can't think of an English translation for it.

It'a a French word. It means «off the rack», as opposed to «made to measure».

[Uncle Al]

To me, here in the 'States', a confection is a sweet desert,
candy, etc. Powdered sugar is also called confectioner's
sugar. A Confectioner is like a baker or pastry chef, only
they make candy.

Also, per my late grandmother, a snit was like a small
temper tantrum. She would say, "Don't get yourself in
a snit over this".

How's that for a 'twist on things'?

Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[Peter v]

Peter,
I apologise if this is just a language difference, but what is a "snit", it is a term I haven't come across before.

Yes, I may be english - ising Dutch words.
Confection means clothing made to a general rule of thumb size.
Clothing made for the gross of people, sized by the manufacturer. Not especially made for any person, or smal minority of people of a particular shape and size. May be made to fit short heavy postures and sold in countrys with long and thin people.

By "snit"I mean the cut of the clothing, how it fits, the model, style. The model of women's clothing is different to that of men's. Men's clothing has a straight "snit" cut and women's has an hour glass model, "snit".

Yes,
Quote:
"AMM wrote:
For the same reason, I would assume that "confection" is probably Dutch, but I can't think of an English translation for it."

It'a a French word. It means «off the rack», as opposed to «made to measure». end quote.

That is correct.


Thank's for asking. We use many english language words, or derived from the english language here in the Netherlands, so sometimes you just don't see that.

Peter v.

[Sarongman]

Actually snit, schnitt, and snip must all hark back to a common Saxon root. It is a pity that there is no resident philologist on this board to give us some clues. I believe Anglo Saxon was a hybrid of two Saxon tongues as the area from Cornwall to Kent was settled by "Frisians" (PeterV's forebears) while the East coast and the Norfolk Broads were settled by Saxons from the North.

[AMM]

Actually snit, schnitt, and snip must all hark back to a common Saxon root.

(Dutch) Snit and (German) Schnitt are, in a sense, the same word, as (Official) Dutch and Standard High German are but two dialects from a single dialect continuum. They are called "languages" because they each "have an army and a navy." If there were an English cognate to these two words, it would be "snit" (or maybe "snide"?), not "snip" -- Germanic dialects swap around t, d, s, and ts, but they don't mix them with p/b/f/pf. My dictionary claims that "snip" is related to Dutch "snippen," no German cognate that I'm aware of.

I'm not educated enough to know exactly which old German dialects were brought over to England, or how they distributed themselves once they got here. However, English also has a lot of Norse, e.g., "skirt" (the Germanic version of the word is "shirt"), from the Norse invasions, not to mention an enormous number of Norman French words.

[Sarongman]

Thanks AMM, I stand corrected. Norman French words, damn lot of ex Viking brats! What right did they have coming across the channel in 1066 and taking over?(speaking with Saxon/Celtic hat on) English is a very interesting language that continues to evolve, with it's easy and frequent borrowings- even from Hindi in the 18th and 19th century. We do seem to be veering, as usual, from the original intent of the thread so, should we start discussing the etymology of the word "nightshirt" (or is that nightskirt!?

[Raakone]

Yes, we take stuff from everywhere. From Hindi, and hence Persian, comes "Pyjamas", which originally just meant the pants (and in India it still does, refers to a specific kind of traditional pants, worn with a tunic called a kurta). Also....at least one of the guys here has a Malay word in his name. "Sarong" is form a Malay word for "sheath." In English, it's the generic name for wrap-around skirt-like garments (In French, the generic term is from Tahitian..."Paréo")

[sapphire]

If I understand "confection" in the context that Peter v used it, would it be appropriate to say that the term "sizing" (as used in the US) would be synonymous?

[Big and Bashful]

Sorry Peter! I seem to have stirred up a hornets nest! Language does seem to get people responding.

[Raakone]

It certainly does.

[Donald]

Sapphire, Peter V, when it comes to arm length in a woman's nightgown, that can easily be solved by going one size range higher than what you would wear in a dress. For example, my long sleeved gown is size 2X even though I could wear a 1X rather well. Its sleeves, when i hold my arms straight, come right to the base of my thumbs. To me, that is plenty long enough and thinking of it, the sleeves on the 1X probably would have been plenty for me.



All my nightgowns I wear are satin. I feel that satin is more comfy for sleeping as it is cooler in summer and warmer in winter. For those nights when I wake up sweaty, the cotton gowns are far more damp than a satin gown. But the satin dries out faster. Another plus to satin is that in the winter, my skin gets rather dry and itchy. Cotton or flannel will make me quite uncomfy even if I use lotion beforehand. It is just too scratchy on my skin. Satin is much better in itchy dry skin, especially if the gown has a "flocking" on the inside. Lastly, if one tosses and turns a lot, satin does slide easier. I had a men's flannel nightshirt and it was rather uncomfortable at times.

When doing some research for satin sleepwear, most of the satin gowns I found were, at the very worst, the same price as a set of satin pajamas. Most of the time, they cost less than the pajamas. Although I did spend a part of my economic stimulus refund on two new nightgowns. Here is a link to one of them.

Lace Top Gown by Amoureuse

To me, I do appreciate a gown with some femininity as well as the plainer gowns as I mentioned in my other post. Not only do they have the prettier colors (I ordered mine in the blue), a more feminine gown just seems to look better if you like to wear such an item for lounging around the house on weekends.