Wished she'd worn a skirt

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
Peter v
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 916
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:42 pm
Location: The Netherlands

Post by Peter v »

sapphire wrote:Hey Guys,
Let's be fair. Carl raids my closet, not the other way around. And he frequently forgets to return what he "borrowed"

SO don't put that behavior on us ladies!
As for the pants thing. I'm usually found in knit pants and a t-shirt. Its comfy and wearing the "uniform" is a habit.

But, I'm disabled and at home 99% of the time. I see no one, no one sees me. I don't see the need to dress up. If I go out, its to some fancy place like Wal-Mart or the grocery store. whoopie
I'm really sorry to hear that you don't get about that much, socially lately.
Of course that may also be because you may live in an area which is sparcley inhabited. I can understand that when people don't get out much, and have maybe very few visitors, then the motivation and desire to get all neatly dressed up slowly dissappears. I know Carl is there, but that is different.

That is something to be watched carefully and be aware fo, as we must not slip into a daily dullness, a depression. Easier said than done.

I am in much the same situation, even though I live in a well populated town, in houses which are in rows of six wall to wall :cry: nobody comes to me, except the post woman, and I really don't have anybody to go to, except my mom, living 500 yards further down the street. So getting dressed up to "show yourself at your best" is something I do only for my own sake. Which is dangerous, because once you get tired, have an easy day, in simple comfortable clothes, there may be not much energy to get freshened up in the evening and put on a nice skirt.

I have had two days now, that I was doing some chores outside, at home, in pants ( it was raining and blowing, ) and coveralls, and in the evening I didn't have any desire to put on a skirt.

That woried me.

I was thinking about If I was to get a job, ( I am without a job for four and a half years now) that is very needed, neccessary, financially, but also it may mean that I cannot wear skirts daily, and I would hope that in that case I would have enough energy left for the few hours between comming home and going to bed ( no more sitting behind the computer until ahum 04:38 hours as is the case again now.) to get changed into a skirt. I love wearing skirts, but the enjoyment is not only in house, but out and about.

I really love wearing skirts all day. But as my money is nearly depleated, I will be going less and less into town because I will tire from seeing great new skirts / dresses, which I obviously cannot buy. ( don't have to buy every day) But going into town and "window shopping", but inside, with trying on various items of clothing, is something that I really love to do, and is the only thing that I do actually. And I cannot go into the same shops every day repeatedly without ultimately buying something.

So I hope that I will find something else to do outside, in which I can wear skirts / dresses, hoping also that I do find a job, so that I can fend for myself again. It is so contradicting, no job, having all day wearing skirts, great, but no money, and having a job, but most probably not wearing skirts very often anymore. :roll: They say you can't have your cake and eat it too.

( "get a life I hear someone saying" ) Yes. But how? I don't have a social life, as most social events involved ultimately drinking and of course inhaling other peoples smoke, which I do not want to. (my choice) which meant that I had no other choice than not to take part in any social events. ("If you don't like the smoke go away") so I did.

That is why I understand why so many men ultimately don't wear skirts openly, even if their wives don't prevent them from doing so. Comming home tired afdter a hard day's work, eating, washing, possibly changing into a skirt, play with the kids, fall exhausted on the couch and watch tv for an hour or so before going to bed. When can you then wear a skirt openly?

I think that may be one of the reasons that also there are so few people who submit anything on the forum. They have so little time, and don't get to wear skirts very much out of doors, so there is little or nothing to tell.

That is why it is so important, to if you can, wnd want to of course, wear skirts daily, at work if possible. Or like me, unfortunately jobless :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: but do have all hours in which to wear skirts except when I need to do chores which are not suited for skirt wearing. And I chuck pants in the washing machine, but am careful with skirts, and wear often skirts that need gentle cleaning ( women's ) skirts.

So my all day wearing ability comes at a great cost, literally.

So with all the complications limmiting "skirt time"it is really a wonder it has come as far as it has. There is a lot of promotion to get done to get more men out there in skirts on all day basis.

Perter v. :roll:
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
User avatar
sapphire
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 1308
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:42 pm
Location: New England

Post by sapphire »

There was a British show called "Rumpole of the Bailey". Rumpole referred to his wife as "she who must be obeyed"

Someone is making an unflattering characterization of his wife.
Moderation is for monks. To enjoy life, take big bites.
-------Lazarus Long
User avatar
sapphire
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 1308
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:42 pm
Location: New England

Post by sapphire »

Hi Peter,
Yes, we live in a small town of 7,000 people but it is not sparesly inhabited. While it is true that there is some farmland/undeveloped land, for the most part, there are single family homes with (usually) small plots of land.

Our town borders the second largest city in the New England Region of the US, Worcester, MA. Worcester is home to 13 colleges and universities, a little science museum, an absolutely splendid art museum, a large private collection of antique arms and armor. Nearby, is the exquisite Tower Hill Botanical Garden.

The old opera house is being restored and scheduled to reopen in March.

THere are two movie complexes nearby and tnumerous shopping centers nearby.

Yet it is close enough to wild places that, if you are alert, you can see wild creatures.

In fact, yesterday, I went to the larger of the two shopping malls. I didn't see anything in my size that I liked or could afford, but I did buy four new shirts for Carl.

But these tend to be solitary pursuits and not anything to dress up for. (Well, maybe the reopening of the opera house)
Moderation is for monks. To enjoy life, take big bites.
-------Lazarus Long
User avatar
alexthebird
Distinguished Member
Posts: 122
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:37 pm
Location: Philadelphia USA

Post by alexthebird »

sapphire wrote:
The old opera house is being restored and scheduled to reopen in March.
Would that be Mechanics Hall? I graduated from Clark University in 1976 and stayed in Worcester to work for about five years afterwards and a newly renovated Mechanics Hall re-opened right about that time. It was a big deal for about four months, but then nobody ever booked any events there.
User avatar
sapphire
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 1308
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:42 pm
Location: New England

Post by sapphire »

No. Mechanics Hall is alive and well an gorgeous. It tends to get booked for private functions. Last time I attended an event there was about 9 years ago, it was a lecture by Jane Goodall.

Do you remember the old Showcase Cinemas in downtown (actually Federal Square)? THAT'S the old opera house.

Remember the old wreck that was the train station? It has been restored to its former glory. Tuckerman Hall has been restored also. It is supposed to be home to the Central Massachusetts Symphony Orchestra, although I have seen any listings recently. I did go there once for a performance by MLK Jr's daughter.
Moderation is for monks. To enjoy life, take big bites.
-------Lazarus Long
Departed Member

Post by Departed Member »

sapphire wrote: Someone is making an unflattering characterization of his wife.
Not necessarily! Just as likely to be used as a term of affection, here in the UK. I remember someone once taking umbrage because rather than "Wife", I described my 'other half' as "My Children's Mother" - they couldn't comprehend it was perhaps the greatest compliment I could show her!
gshubert
Active Member
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:31 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

She Who Must Be Obeyed

Post by gshubert »

Also a reference from the John Mortimer books and television series made from them, Rumpole of the Bailey.

Rumpole is married to Hilda, to whom he refers as "She Who Must Be Obeyed."
--G. Shubert
Hotdog
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:22 pm

Post by Hotdog »

It always amazes me that even on the hottest days in the summer you will see dozens of women in Jeans and long trousers, jeans are almost a religion with women these days!
SkirtDude

Post by SkirtDude »

delete
Last edited by SkirtDude on Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
AMM
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 841
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:01 pm
Location: Thanks for all the fish!

Post by AMM »

Hotdog wrote:It always amazes me that even on the hottest days in the summer you will see dozens of women in Jeans and long trousers, jeans are almost a religion with women these days!
I've always been skeptical of this sort of reasoning, especially since none of the guys (it's always guys) who say these things ever report having actually asked the women in question why they are wearing jeans, etc.

One thought that occurs to me is that trousers, especially long trousers, have the advantage for women of being less hassle to deal with than a skirt.

I've remarked elsewhere that if a guy wears a kilt, all sorts of people will come up with all sorts of rules as to what is a "real kilt," and how you must wear it, and whether he's allowed to wear a particular tartan, and what kind of sock, shoes, etc., youhave to have, to the point that it's as much of a headache as a tuxedo. And then you have to be careful that you don't "flash" anyone, and that you stay away from people who will want to pull up your kilt. Whereas if you wear jeans, you just put them on, and you put on a shirt of some sort (or not), and you are dressed. And no one will hassle you for wearing them.

In the same vein, I understand that when a woman wears a skirt, she is "required" to wear pantyhose, a slip, a top that matches in style and color, shoes that match in style and color, and then sit just right and cross her legs right and make sure no one can see anything. And, of course, deal with males who think skirt-flipping, or cameras pointing up from the floor, or worse, is what a woman is asking for when she dons a skirt. Given all that, I can see how jeans or sweats might seem easier, even if they're not quite as cool in the summer. They are clothes you don't have to think about.

An anecdote: on a blog I sometimes look at, a woman told how she was going regularly to a local cafe to study for her GRE's (exams for getting into Grad. school.) She'd noticed a guy who would stare at her, but she never said anything. One day, she wore a dress, and he came up to her. First he complemented her on what she was wearing. Then he told her he'd like it even better if she wore fishnet stockings, stilletto heels, etc. Let's just say that this sort of experience is not likely to make this particular woman more eager to dress up in a skirt or dress when going to the local coffee shop.
Kilty
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 956
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:47 pm

Post by Kilty »

I always wear black knickers under my kilt in case the unexpected happens.. :shock:

For real, I know it's easier just to put on shorts and go out, or jeans rather than answer 1001 questions about why you are in a kilt and if you're Scottish... :(

Perhaps if England has a summer this year I might wear my denim one... The problem is the kilt 'Cartels', or should I say manufacturers who make the prices so high, that the common man wouldnt even consider buying one, unless it was for a special occasion... Why they can't make them the same price as jeans, I will never know... @ least £30. I know Burton tried with the Sarong a few years ago... Perhaps one day they will try a kilt... 8)
AndrewH
Active Member
Posts: 48
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:09 pm
Location: Near Bournemouth, England
Contact:

Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

Post by AndrewH »

gshubert wrote:"She Who Must Be Obeyed."
Is from the H Rider Haggard book "She"
about Ayesha, a queen described as "She who must be obeyed"

It is sometimes used now as a term of endearment amonst those parts of society where it is "not done" for men to show too much emotion of any sort!
All the best,

Andrew
Ray
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 1883
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:03 am
Location: West Midlands, England, UK

Post by Ray »

kilty wrote:The problem is the kilt 'Cartels', or should I say manufacturers who make the prices so high, that the common man wouldnt even consider buying one, unless it was for a special occasion... Why they can't make them the same price as jeans, I will never know... @ least £30. I know Burton tried with the Sarong a few years ago... Perhaps one day they will try a kilt... 8)
Can you please take on board the fact that there are NO kilt cartels!

There are no barriers to entry in the kilt market; nor are there barriers to the raw materials. No barriers to entry / mtls = open market = market led pricing.

Jeans are nothing like as time intensive to make as a kilt. You say you will never know why a kilt is not the same price as jeans. Go and visit a kiltmaker and you will find out.

Kilty, I'm sorry if you're bearing the brunt of my invective, but it really infuriates me when people bang on about kilts being expensive due to (a) greed, (b) cartels, (c) price fixing. All are complete nonsense. The fact of the matter is that kilts have been falling gently in price in real terms over the last 10 years. As I have stated elsewhere, a good kilt can be bought for £250. It will last you 20 years, for heaven's sake! That's £12.50 / year! How long do jeans last? 2 years? Mine don't. One year, tops.

There you go. Kilty. Kilts ARE less expensive than jeans!

(exasperated sigh....)
Bri
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 235
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:39 pm

Post by Bri »

I was at a club last night with my gf and she actually wished she had worn a skirt instead of jeans. I also wished the same thing (for her and I) but we both knew why we didn't wear one for different reasons. For me it would've been rejection by most people (but in a club, I don't care what people think about what I look like) because I've worn one before to that club and received really strange looks from a so called eclectic/liberal goth crowd. She had some guy dancing on her for a couple songs and I was right next to her (he didn't realise that I was her bf) and we knew that 3 times more guys would've been on her if she was in a tight mini skirt.

She also thinks I look hot in a mini, as well a pair of black leggings under the skirt.
Bri
Member Extraordinaire
Posts: 235
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:39 pm

Post by Bri »

Ray, I'd have to agree completely on that kilt comment. Kilts take an average of a day or 2 days of complete devotion by a very experienced kiltmaker (I was in a store today that sold them). It's not so much the cost of wool because that's a very competitive market with a very similar product that you can't really charge much less for.

A pair of jeans takes maybe 5min. to actually sew together. The higher quality ones might last you 3 years of repetitive wear and usage before the cotton can't expand and contract and retain it's shape and elasticity. So yeh, kilts might be cheaper, but it's also a market where you don't have slaves in an inhuman environment making them.

One thing my gf and I were thinking about is getting her a mini kilt as well as I. Regular kilts are just too hot to wear in the summer and I need/want something shorter.
Post Reply