What Members Of The Labour Party Think About Our Ilk

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I didn’t post this when this incident first happened as at the time Bob was having a tiz about political stuff on the forum. However if you read the following you’ll find out this really does concern us & in fact is pretty disturbing.

Few weeks back I had a run in with a few Labour Party members & these were members who really involved in campaigning for Labour. Anyways they said to me that they reckoned it was okay for anybody discriminate against Goths & Trannies being as people made a choice to be a Goth or Tranny. In fact they seem to encouraging people to discriminate against anybody who didn’t conform to their liking. But on top of that a couple said to me that Goths & Trannies were basically asking to be beaten up.

Labour are meant to be socially progressive & I’d not say this is representative of the party as a whole but I do find it disturbing that if their members who are active with in the party with such opinions. This really shows what some of the membership of the Labour Party really thinks & I found it disturbing especially as they’re currently the party in power.

I accept people do have the right to discriminate but I don’t think it’s a good idea. However saying a tranny or a Goth is asking to beaten up is disgusting & is inexcusable.

What does this have to do with Men’s Fashion Freedom? Well I asked them straight about a guy who wears a dress or skirt & they pretty much lumped that in with the same reaction they reckoned trannies deserve.

This is why I’m political its fight such bulls**t.

[Pythos]

You do know that these people are more deserving of being beaten down than people that choose to wear a certain style of clothing. These wonders of human evolution sound very much like the Brown Shirts, you know, those wonderous thugs that predated the SS, and were one of Hitler's tools for getting power in Germany. They were a racist, biggoted bunch just like these fellows you described. Hitler had them go out and cause "social unrest" by smashing non-jewish store fronts, beat up people at random, rape, murder. This worked beautifully for the upcoming dictator cause he now had a platform on which to get into power.

It is quite ironic that the Brown shirts who had several gay members (So they also were hypocrites of the highest order) Were disbanded, hunted down and killed off by the SS once Hitler came to power.

These labor party people better take another look at their charter, and point out exactly where it says they can and should discriminate, and even beat up someone mearly because of a personal choice that hurts no one. They may or may not be aware they could be headed for a change in shirt color.

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When I was a teenager I was a member of the Laboue party & there was the odd member who somewhat bigotted but these tended to be older members what's disturbing about what I said above is it came from people younger then me & I'm only 33.

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I accept people do have the right to discriminate

Everyone has the right to his or her own opinion (whether or not the political/religious pundits in a particular country acknowledge it), and in most countries we have freedom to choose whether to associate with a person or not, but it is destructive to society as a whole to discriminate on ANY grounds, and reflects a low self-esteem for the one doing the discrimination, so please challenge those who want to discriminate by asking what they're afraid of, and how real that fear is. In most cases the fear is perceived and not real - just as it is for us to wear skirts openly.

[DavidsSkirts]

If those clowns were representing their party at the time - and not speaking as private citizens - they could probably be reported to the regional organisation for openly promoting a dissident viewpoint...


If they weren't representing the party at the time, but you simply knew them to be party members - that could put a different slant on things here..


Labour/Labor parties everywhere have a certain amount of Neanderthals and thugs among their members - it goes with the territory - in the same way that conservative parties have a high proportion of inbreds, hillbillies and sexual perverts. It's the nature of the beast.

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If those clowns were representing their party at the time - and not speaking as private citizens - they could probably be reported to the regional organisation for openly promoting a dissident viewpoint...

One of them is standing in local government elections in May & before then I'll be writing to the local press in his area

[AMM]

You do know that these people are more deserving of being beaten down than ...

While I agree that their point of view is odious, I'm also a bit leery of saying things like this.

One of civilisation's great accomplishments is the general acceptance of the idea that we have to live more or less peacefully even with those we can't stand. I realize you probably didn't mean your comment literally, but I've watched as societies went from people saying but not meaning it to acting on it.

The appropriate and civilised way to handle this is to report these guys to their higher-ups in the Labour hierarchy. Let them think over just what some Tories with a tape recorder could do with this.

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Labour/Labor parties everywhere have a certain amount of Neanderthals and thugs among their members - it goes with the territory - in the same way that conservative parties have a high proportion of inbreds, hillbillies and sexual perverts. It's the nature of the beast.

These remarks are neither accurate, amusing nor appropriate, indeed they are extremely offensive.

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I think the point he was trying to make Merlin was that there's bigots everywhere & he's right

[crfriend]

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Gentlemen, the above couple of posts (save AMM's sage commentary) show, in graphic detail, why we try to keep politics discrete from our fashion choices. The topic starts to creep, the language intensifies, and we have folks getting ticked off. Note that this is not Bob making the call this time -- it's me. We have guidelines here for a reason, and one of those reasons is so that folks don't get offended needlessly.

Yes, we all know there are bigots and ignoramouses in every corner. Heck, we've probably met more than a few each ourselves. But, that does not give us the right to slag off on folks like this. I'd hoped we'd be better than that.