Some women look guilty

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Some women look guilty

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I've noticed, while out and about in a modern kilt (essentially pleated skirt :duck: ), that some women in trousers (mainly jeans) look sort of guilty when they see me, almost as if they're betraying their gender by wearing pants, while here's a man wearing what they should be wearing.

Could it be that there are some women out there who, although they wear trousers, aren't entirely (mentally) comfortable in them?

Am I misinterpreting their expression or is this just wishful thinking?

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I get the same impression at services, like they should be more dressed up, in a dress or skirt.

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Maybe a too strong word!

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Charlie wrote:I've noticed, while out and about in a modern kilt (essentially pleated skirt :duck: ), that some women in trousers (mainly jeans) look sort of guilty when they see me, almost as if they're betraying their gender by wearing pants, while here's a man wearing what they should be wearing.
Hi!

I guess the word should is a little too strong but could is useful.

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Since I've started buying skirts for myself with my girlfriend, I've noticed she's started to buy them for herself. We were watching TV this weekend and I was wearing a kilt, laying about on the sofa.

She suddenly looked suprised and said, "I can see now why men like women to wear skirts! You can slide your hand right up the leg, like this.."

She used to have one or two really long skirts and that was about it. Now she has about four minis, and she wears them all the time. So maybe men wearing skirts influences women as well as men! It's all good!
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Is she wearing them in same way?:bounce: :bounce: :naughty:

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how do you mean, in same way? same way as me? yes.. around the waist or hips..

what??!
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Charlie wrote:I've noticed, while out and about in a modern kilt (essentially pleated skirt :duck: ), that some women in trousers (mainly jeans) look sort of guilty when they see me, almost as if they're betraying their gender by wearing pants, while here's a man wearing what they should be wearing.

Could it be that there are some women out there who, although they wear trousers, aren't entirely (mentally) comfortable in them?

Am I misinterpreting their expression or is this just wishful thinking?

Charlie
I have picked up on that as well. I think it is a bit of guilt...
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Women I woirk with dress up more

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I'm not sure that I mentioned this back @ Tom's but I noticed that some of the women I worked with then started wearing skirts & dresses more. Therer's a tom boyish lady at my current department that makes sure to show me her dress on the few occasions when she wears a dress. :)
Charlie wrote:I've noticed, while out and about in a modern kilt (essentially pleated skirt :duck: ), that some women in trousers (mainly jeans) look sort of guilty when they see me, almost as if they're betraying their gender by wearing pants, while here's a man wearing what they should be wearing.

Could it be that there are some women out there who, although they wear trousers, aren't entirely (mentally) comfortable in them?

Am I misinterpreting their expression or is this just wishful thinking?

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Charlie wrote:I've noticed, while out and about in a modern kilt (essentially pleated skirt :duck: ), that some women in trousers (mainly jeans) look sort of guilty when they see me, almost as if they're betraying their gender by wearing pants, while here's a man wearing what they should be wearing.
Well, you can always ask and find out but don't hold me responsible for what happens when you tell them you are wondering if they feel they should be wearing a skirt or dress. I'm not aware of any pressure for women to wear pants (other than employment uniform related sometimes) so I don't think many women are in trousers that don't want to be. I'd say the assumption that women belong only in dresses or skirts is a thankfully dying idea. Besides, if you were seeing the reaction of one of those people my guess is that they would not take as kindly to a man in "their" clothes so the look would be disgust rather than guilt.

Another possible explaination for the jeans wearers is that they see the kilt looks dressier than what they have on and perhaps are thinking they could have dressed a bit nicer.

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Skirt Chaser wrote:Another possible explaination for the jeans wearers is that they see the kilt looks dressier than what they have on and perhaps are thinking they could have dressed a bit nicer.

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That's exactly what Mrs Milfmog said. Sounds far more likely than guilt over not wearing a skirt.

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Skirt Chaser wrote:Well, you can always ask and find out but don't hold me responsible for what happens when you tell them you are wondering if they feel they should be wearing a skirt or dress. I'm not aware of any pressure for women to wear pants (other than employment uniform related sometimes) so I don't think many women are in trousers that don't want to be. I'd say the assumption that women belong only in dresses or skirts is a thankfully dying idea. Quiet Mouse
Mmnn, obviously varies with the individual woman, but I've been rather surprised with responses I've had when this topic comes up. Certainly more than half of those I knew (from work)/know well have expressed that they preferred wearing skirts (dresses in summer), but felt obliged to don tr*users/jeans to 'fit in' - sheep mentality, some might say! :confused:

I was always quite gratified, having persuaded one of my colleagues to wear a skirt to work (instead of you-know-what!), that they seemed pleasantly surprised by the reaction of their co-workers. Belligerent bosses noticeably 'backed off' when confronted by a skirt-clad lady. Many employers only provide bi-furcated uniform (to women). As I've mentioned before, my wife requested a (uniform) cullotte instead. To their credit, they tried hard to find a supplier, to no avail. They offered to re-imburse her if she could find a supplier, herself, but sadly, we're still looking. :shake:

The feminazis' 'putch' to turn women into "second class men" :eek: certainly had 'tr*user-wearing as its (core) symbol of 'defiance'. For health reasons alone, skirts (& also dresses for women) are far more benificial, long-term, for everyone. :)

I'm talking (or should that be writing!) from a UK perspective, but would say that it is noticeable in other (European)countries that the proportion of female skirt-wearers is changing. In the Netherlands, for instance, twenty years ago, 19/20 females wore (often hideously ill-shaped) jeans/tr*users. Now, against perceived trends elsewhere, that figure has changed dramatically. As many as 1/7 have taken up skirts as 'first choice'. Part of the problem for blokes has to be the fact that, in recent years, skirts have been regarded as 'inferior' clothing. The change is long overdue.
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I had to revisit this thread because I finally discovered one pressure some women face against wearing skirts when they want to. On another forum I visit there was a complaint that a skirt or dress left them treated as less intelligent by some work colleagues and a few others agreed they felt treated that way too. That made me wonder where that leaves the guy in a skirt. If it was not just the perception of these women and there are people who treat a skirted woman as less intelligent or capable than one in trousers a man dressed the same must really mess with their heads.

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Skirt Chaser wrote:I had to revisit this thread because I finally discovered one pressure some women face against wearing skirts when they want to. On another forum I visit there was a complaint that a skirt or dress left them treated as less intelligent by some work colleagues and a few others agreed they felt treated that way too. That made me wonder where that leaves the guy in a skirt. If it was not just the perception of these women and there are people who treat a skirted woman as less intelligent or capable than one in trousers a man dressed the same must really mess with their heads.
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Again, I find this somewhat surprising, and at odds with my observations. :eh: However, I would say that most of the 'tr*user-suited' women behaved particularly belligerently and were plain obnoxious when thus clad. There's certainly a perceived 'link', in some women's minds, that tr*users = a licence to be 'loud', bossy and over-bearing and that they would use this 'licence' against everyone, regardless of gender. :ninjajig: However, blokes (management or otherwise) didn't dare 'take on' a skirt-clad girl/woman, and were especially phased by one who normally went about bi-furcated (that they'd happily berate), who suddenly turned up wearing a skirt (especially a 'big' skirt!). :cheer:
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