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gshubert wrote:I spent two months this summer at a college in Santa Fe, NM. The first day or two I wore my black Amerikilt, then changed to a Mountain kilt, then to mostly above-the-knee denim, cargo, and hiking skirts. I didn't get a lot of comments, but the ones I got were all favorable. I got used to them and found them all quite comfortable. When I wore pants one day the last week, some people asked "Where's your skirt?" It was a good experience. Go ahead, be adventurous.
It is a non event in NM. I live in Albuquerque and wear a skirt 90% of the time without problems.
Hi Guys,
I do not agree that a True Skirt is necessarily made for women. My definition of True Skirt is that it pretends to be nothing else, especially nothing else linked with tradition from when sewing pants (trousers) was too difficult or expensive. Thus, yes, citiskirts would fit the definition of True Skirts, especially as they carry the honest "skirt" tag. My Union Kilt is marginal in the True Skirt stakes, because it follows the general shape of a traditional kilt, including front apron, but has pockets and shiny fastenings and is denim.
skirttron wrote:Hi Guys,
I do not agree that a True Skirt is necessarily made for women. My definition of True Skirt is that it pretends to be nothing else, especially nothing else linked with tradition from when sewing pants (trousers) was too difficult or expensive. Thus, yes, citiskirts would fit the definition of True Skirts, especially as they carry the honest "skirt" tag. My Union Kilt is marginal in the True Skirt stakes, because it follows the general shape of a traditional kilt, including front apron, but has pockets and shiny fastenings and is denim.
The original, Standard model Utilikilt would probably pass a bit better, in that it doesn't have aprons and does not wrap. Step in, zip up, and snap two snaps. It's the most skirt like of all the modern kilts. I miss it, actually. The Spartan isn't as nice, in that it still has the look of the neo-traditional UK.
So, the question I struggle with is what is alright and what goes to far, or is there such a thing? I sometimes like to wear skirts that some may contend is to Feminine (sometimes including petticoats), I always pair them with otherwise male attire and never try to pass myself off as anything else, but the question (and fear) still remain.
I think the only truly gender specific item of clothing would have to be the BRA!. When I am putting my wife's on the line, with their hard curves of wire and, well, just the sheer awkwardness of the thing. (I call them double barrelled catapults) in size double dang! I'm so glad I don't have to wear them. BTW Dolly Parton is in a previous life, (according to a psychic) a failed can can dancer who was fired when the small pumpkins she was using to enhance her breasts fell out on stage. KARMA We have an 18 year old girl here who is the state champion fullbore rifle shooter. As, traditionally, rifle shooting has been a "men's" sport, does this mean she is using a man's rifle or is it HER rifle? Some women are, and have been great craftspeople, so they are not using men's tools they are using tools without gender specificity. Women wearing "men's" clothes really aren't, because, once they are wearing them and have them in their wardrobe, they are now women's clothes so, to turn this around, what a man has in his wardrobe and wears regularly is a man's garment.
Sarongman, you are quite right that underwire bras are hideous poking discomforts but the nice thing is that the wire is optional, as it a bra for that matter.
I could go either way on the naming of clothing pieces but I lean toward intended audience and source. My favorite shiny green cowboy boots came from the men's side of the shop and are sized that way. I think of them as men's in part because it helps me to remember where to look for another pair if these wear out. To me women's clothes on a man still seem to be women's clothes just as cowboy boots do not change their name when worn by some cowboy wannabe businessman to...Cowboy Wannabe Businessman Boots.
We have an 18 year old girl here who is the state champion fullbore rifle shooter. As, traditionally, rifle shooting has been a "men's" sport, does this mean she is using a man's rifle or is it HER rifle? Some women are, and have been great craftspeople, so they are not using men's tools they are using tools without gender specificity. Women wearing "men's" clothes really aren't, because, once they are wearing them and have them in their wardrobe, they are now women's clothes so, to turn this around, what a man has in his wardrobe and wears regularly is a man's garment.