Story Telling Men in Skirts & Dresses

[mr seamstress]

One thing specific to Klinger, he chose to dress that way of his own volition and with a specific reason at that.
Get out of the army asap, simples?
The Klinger role like many of the MASH subplots was the perfect parody of the societal norms of the time.
In MASH, Corporal Klinger was a perfectly able and functioning member of that team.
The fact that he wore a dress while doing it, made no damn difference which kind of backfired on his aim in the first place.
Given the societal attitudes prevalent in the mid fifties that would have been deemed impossible.
Steve.

In peace time that outlook would seem more logical. Since the show was base true reality during conflict makes it more plausible. Stories can be found women serve during that time as men. Search the internet you find stories. During war there is shortage of men for combat, that makes everyone count.
Physical in military demands everyone stand in line nude during that process. Dorms have -0- privacy. How could a woman serve in the military without anyone noticing would be impossible. But there are pictures of women in men's uniform during that time.
When it comes to Klinger it would be more fact than fiction it happen.

[STEVIE]

When it comes to Klinger it would be more fact than fiction it happen.

I'd say, very likely, and certainly in units like the MASH.
Alan Turing, one of the leading figures in the breaking of the German Enigma code was a homosexual.
At a time when it was illegal, it was tolerated because he was useful.
That ended with the war, and he was persecuted to the end.
That's a case that we know, I don't doubt that there are very many more.
Not about men in skirts , but Terry Pratchett's Monstrous Regiment is a very good exploration of this subject.
Steve.

[GerdG]

If we are going to look at the whole "forced feminisation" aspect. This would be attractive to men who haven't got the courage to wear a skirt? That is they can't bring themselves to fulfill their fantasy, so they dream of someone making them do it. Thus not their fault.

I think you are right about the assumption that forced feminisation is what many men, lacking the courage to wear a skirt in public, are dreaming of, fantasising about or hoping for. Especially, would it be their own wife? Therefore, I wonder why these stories are about women forcing boys, not (their) men, to wear skirts and why they should be written by women, not men.

Fantasies can start early. I remember that as a boy, maybe 8-9 years old, I sometimes envied the girls in their dresses, which must, I thought, be much more comfortable than my shorts. I shouldn’t have liked to be a girl, however. But being a boy in dresses, I could very well imagine. Only impossible.
One day, however, about the same time, my grandmother, my dad’s mother, was babysitting me. She read stories for me and entertained me with plays and things grandmothers do. But she also, out of the blue, told me about a boy she somehow knew about. She had just heard that when he didn’t behave, he would be put in girls’ clothes for a period of time, and that he was for now. I have no reason to doubt that it was not true. She thought it was wrong and said I could be happy that I did not live in such a family.

I just listened, didn’t comment, and didn’t ask whether she knew about how long it had been, how the boy felt about it, whether he was my age, who he was. That I regretted. She never mentioned it again, and I couldn’t find an excuse to ask her again.

But it made me start thinking about being that boy. What if my parents got the idea of punishing me that way? How would I feel when having to go dressed as a girl? But of course, they wouldn’t get such an idea, and as I grew older, I (more or less) forgot about it and was happy to be in shorts.

I still haven’t the slightest intention of being, looking like, or becoming a woman. But I like wearing kilts for comfort, and sometimes regular skirts. My wife accepts me in kilts and somewhat tolerates me in skirts. Being happy, I can and dare to, I don’t need her (or any other) to force me to dress in female stuff nor fantasy novels. But some of them might, after all, help some timid men to take the next step, I guess.

[mr seamstress]

I think you are right about the assumption that forced feminisation is what many men, lacking the courage to wear a skirt in public, are dreaming of, fantasising about or hoping for. Especially, would it be their own wife? Therefore, I wonder why these stories are about women forcing boys, not (their) men, to wear skirts and why they should be written by women, not men.

You haven't been reading. Those stories are out there forcing men into wearing skirts and dress.

My wife accepts me in kilts and somewhat tolerates me in skirts. Being happy, I can and dare to, I don’t need her (or any other) to force me to dress in female stuff nor fantasy novels. But some of them might, after all, help some timid men to take the next step, I guess.

Are you sure your wife isn't trying to manipulate you from wearing skirts?
A lot of these stories is about manipulate male into wearing skirts and dress, just like when we are born we are manipulative into wearing pants only and should be happy about it.
Parents don't take their sons along the aisle with dresses and skirts and ask him if any fits his fantasy in wearing. The average parent manipulate their sons have to wear pants only, because society says it is okay to manipulate the child into believing he doesn't have the right to choose. Majority of parents will never give their sons the option to wear whatever he wants. The parents will criticize (manipulate) the poor child. This isn't fantasy, but is real.
Society enjoy in criticizing others into believing should live their lives same way they live theirs.

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-ma ... or-5220502

criticizing = manipulation

[Barleymower]

I think you are right about the assumption that forced feminisation is what many men, lacking the courage to wear a skirt in public, are dreaming of, fantasising about or hoping for. Especially, would it be their own wife? Therefore, I wonder why these stories are about women forcing boys, not (their) men, to wear skirts and why they should be written by women, not men.

But she also, out of the blue, told me about a boy she somehow knew about. She had just heard that when he didn’t behave, he would be put in girls’ clothes for a period of time, and that he was for now.

What your grandmother is referring to is "petticoating". It was a punishment for boys who disrespected women by a dominant female family figure or governess. Stevie I know is a well versed historian in this manner.

Coder said the subject is creepy. What find interesting about this summation is that only men can be creepy in this respect. There has to be a connection between the fact that men are denied access to female clothes and accessories and the creepiness when they explore feminine things. There is a cause blindness here.

The creepiness,.I think, comes from being repressed for so long and not allowed an outlet.

I don't know why it affects some of us but not others. It does however seem to affect girls and boys equally. Some girls detest skirts and dresses.

[GerdG]

Are you sure your wife isn't trying to manipulate you from wearing skirts?
A lot of these stories is about manipulate male into wearing skirts and dress, just like when we are born we are manipulative into wearing pants only and should be happy about it.

But of course, she is trying to. Accepting and tolerating means that she should prefer me in trousers.

You might consider 6 categories of wives:

1. Enthusiastic
“I was the one who persuaded him to wear skirts. I like men in skirts and dresses, and I keep telling him how good he looks and that he should never wear trousers.”

The FLR variety:
“In our relationship, I’m the one who wears the trousers. When I told him I wanted him in skirts and dresses, he was not happy but accepted that he had no say in the matter. Fortunately, he has come to like it.”

2. Positive
“I think he looks good in skirts and dresses. To start with, I really was two minds, but it didn’t take me long to get used to seeing him dressing that way.”

3. Neutral
“What my husband wears is entirely up to him. I can wear what I like, and so can he.”

4. Accepting
“OK, I had preferred that he would just go dressed like ‘normal’ men, but obviously skirts and dresses are important to him, so most of the time, I just let him.
Sometimes, I tell him that he looks better in trousers and shorts, however.”

5. Tolerating
“Well, I can’t keep him from wearing skirts and dresses. After all, it is his choice, and if he only wears them when he is on his own, I can live with it, even if I sometimes tell him how much I prefer him in trousers.”

6. Negative
“My husband in skirts and dresses? Over my dead body. Men must be men and look like men.”

While the stories you refer to might relate to category 1, I guess the absolute majority of wives are in categories 5 and 6, followed by 4, 3, and 2, with a good distance to category 1. Or am I wrong?

[GerdG]

You haven't been reading. Those stories are out there forcing men into wearing skirts and dress.

The story you linked to was about a boy who was sent to a boarding school where he and the other boys had to go dressed in girls’ school uniforms.

I think it is OK for men to fantasise about them being forced by their wives to wear skirts and dresses or to be made sissies or whatever, but when it is about parents forcing boys, I have my reservations, unless the stories are written by boys and for boys with fantasies about getting dressed as girls.

[mr seamstress]

You haven't been reading. Those stories are out there forcing men into wearing skirts and dress.

The story you linked to was about a boy who was sent to a boarding school where he and the other boys had to go dressed in girls’ school uniforms.

I think it is OK for men to fantasise about them being forced by their wives to wear skirts and dresses or to be made sissies or whatever, but when it is about parents forcing boys, I have my reservations, unless the stories are written by boys and for boys with fantasies about getting dressed as girls.

The story I link to had the boy coming home and still kept dressing the same way even though he didn't have to.

For the author of this story could be male and/or had male input. Any names associate with that story is more likely fake. It didn't matter since this thread isn't entirely base upon the story I link on.
Are all dresses and skirts equally male clothes regardless of a person age. If you see that dresses and skirts are without any sex, how can a male look sissy? If a boy was raised wearing dresses and skirts and was require to wear pants in a boarding school; would you still see it wrong for him to wear pants? In your own statements you are making a great case why it is wrong for a man to wear dresses and skirts? Referring to a male wearing a dress or skirt looking sissy doesn't help in promoting man can wear same clothes as females.