Out and About -- In the World at Large

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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We have our goals/wishes. And then, we have our choices. Sometimes they line up and sometimes they do not. Sometimes our wishes do not line up with our wishes and our choices do not line up with our choices!! :D

My wife [and I] would prefer that people who know me remain ignorant about my clothing choices.
I would like to wear whatever I want to more often.
One guy at work is one of those whom I would prefer that he stay forever ignorant of my fashion choices. (He was the hardware guy that came up and offered to help me find something the day I went into work in the shorts and hose.)

So, wearing clothing is not daring. People have worn skirts in my office before. (They were women.) So that's not daring. I do not recall ever seeing one of them wear sheer hosiery, but it still isn't daring. Since I don't want them to know, it is dumb. So, it feels like nothing I did was daring, except trying to be exposed while remaining invisible.

Other daringly dumb things that I have done at work.

I did not blog about this. I think this happened on Labor Day (US Holiday). It may have been another day. I was the only person in the office except for the front desk person. I think that I wore my androgynous ladies' flats to work with women's trousers and, I think, dark hose. When it was clear that no one else was in the office, I changed into a skirt and worked at my desk in privacy. I worked like this for a few hours. I decided to go to the break room and make my lunch. I kept on the skirt. I heard a door. The front desk person was on the move. I was not too worried. If she learned that I wear skirts, whatever... But, I wasn't going to facilitate it if I could avoid it. She did not come to the break room. I put what I could of my lunch back into the plastic bag that I had brought it in, and carried the rest and walked back to my desk. I turned a corner and encountered her. I was carrying my bag so that it obstructed the view of the front and center of my skirt. We both smiled and I bashfully said something like, "Excuse me" or "Hey". I forget... She smiled and behaved rather normally. She walked on by me. I proceeded. I glanced back and she never looked back at me as she returned to the lobby. Later, I changed back into my trousers before going home. I said as I left, "You weren't supposed to see me like that." She expressed confusion on her face and said, "Why, because of your shorts? Were you hot?" I said, "Since no one was here, I decided to change into something more comfortable." or something like that. I am pretty sure that I was wearing off-black pantyhose, but she must not have noticed. (whew!)

The other thing: I went to a conference. Another guy from work went too. They paid for us to go. The first day of the conference, I observed that .5-1% of the people there were expressing some sort of LGBTQ or other presentation. There were several people who were either full-on transgender. There were others who were less clear. A couple of people were in Japanese anime style clothing. (Short dress with above-the-knee socks.) I am pretty sure one was born male. Some people were seemingly presenting male, but they were wearing some female garments and makeup. One guy was there with his wife. I met them. He was in a dress and 1.5 inch, chunky heels. He had long hair that was shaved on the sides of his head. No makeup. blah blah blah... I decided to wear a skirt on day 2 of the conference. I called my co-worker and told him that I was going to do it and asked him not to tell other people at work. I did it. It was an amazing experience. I just lived my life for at least 18 hours while dressed pretty. I rode public transit, ate meals, interacted with people... I do not know if my coworker ever told anyone in the office. I has never come up. And, of course, it doesn't matter.

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jjjjohanne wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2026 10:12 am We have our goals/wishes..............
............I would like to wear whatever I want to more often.....
I wonder whether Utilikilt https://utilikilts.com or Stumptown https://www.stumptownkilts.com could help you get to a skirt via the back door. Both are manly US kilt makers who portray men as men with pictures of wood chopping etc. I know this is probably not the type of skirt you want to wear, however it gets friends and family used to you in a skirted garment. You can always wear a black slip beneath if it helps.

The point being is time will get you what you want if you take small steps. I had one Utilikilt is 2016, a Stumtown kilt in 2017.........

The kilts I have mentioned are not cheap, however, having invested money in something, means that you have to use it. So the cost can work to your advantage. Also, they are not cheap ebay play things, but serious pieces of clothing that you can tell people about and be proud to wear the brands.

This is just an idea, but it worked for me and nearly 10 years later........You have the pictures viewtopic.php?p=256986#p256986
Daily, a happy man in a skirt...
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Thanks for sharing Joey, I felt like I was there with you feeling your nervousness as I read.
This is a prime example why men dont dress like Joey is describing. Most men are so used to the rules for men's dress that they don't even think about wearing the clothes women enjoy everyday.
For women reading this you might imagine yourself walking around naked. You would feel exposed. That's exactly how I felt when first venturing out in a skirt, I felt exposed like everyone was staring and hiding a laugh. There's nothing inherently wrong with wearing skirts but most men won't face up to the exposed feeling, looks and expression people as make.
As mouse offers above. A utilikilt can give you back that manly wood chopping feeling. From my own perspective my masculinity comes from within. Therefore I should be able to wear whatever I want. If only! I still have trouble with dresses
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Here I am enjoying some rare sunshine in the frozen north of Scotland.
Wearing what started out as a pure white dress this morning. Said dress is now embellished with a tasty lasagne sauce.
Susie very kindly treated me to an Italian lunch today, lovely food and lovelier company!
I'm going to disagree with Barleymower though, if you rely on clothing to bolster your inner dude, keep to the trousers.
The kilt, whether it is UK or tartan traditional tat is just a subterfuge.
Fine for a while, but long term, not so much.
This is drifting, someone might want to start a new thread or develop it further on the "What if....." that i started.
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STEVIE wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:11 pm Here I am enjoying some rare sunshine in the frozen north of Scotland.
Wearing what started out as a pure white dress this morning. Said dress is now embellished with a tasty lasagne sauce.
Susie very kindly treated me to an Italian lunch today, lovely food and lovelier company!
I'm going to disagree with Barleymower though, if you rely on clothing to bolster your inner dude, keep to the trousers.
The kilt, whether it is UK or tartan traditional tat is just a subterfuge.
Fine for a while, but long term, not so much.
This is drifting, someone might want to start a new thread or develop it further on the "What if....." that i started.
Steve.
Steve for us to disagree we would need to ... disagree.
I agree with what you say and I'm on record as saying that masculinity comes from within, it is not for other people to judge how masculine you are. We are men and we decide what masculinity means to us. People are to quick to say what men do.
If wearing a utilikilt makes you feel more manly then that's a confidence issue not a masculinity issue. I don't own a utilikilt, I have a couple of tarten skirts, I mostly wear them when I'm out with Mrs BM, it makes her feel more comfortable.
Don't get me wrong I have confidence issues but if confronted I will have a go back.
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