Kilt skirt for men

[skirted84]

I've been looking into getting a kilt skirt, not like a mens 8 yard kilt but more like the ladies, although knee length and shaped for a man. The latter is of course why a ladies kilt wouldn't work. Less yardage and possibly lighter/not 100% wool. Many kiltmakers of course are very precious about deviating from traditional kiltmaking, perhaps understandably. Especially if for a man.

On the flip side those "casual" kilts mass produced are rubbish, not comfortable and don't hang properly.

Has anyone tried it. Had any luck?

[Uncle Al]

The "Mass Produced" kilts I wear are from Still Water Kilts.com
as they fit quite nicely, and easy to care for. Toss them in
the washing machine, but HANG THEM TO DRY **
American made in Minnesota, NOT PAKISTAN

** I had one that a single color thread shrank up on me.
Gave a scalloped hem line. All the others are hang dried.

Uncle Al

[STEVIE]

Has anyone tried it. Had any luck?

I'm a bit puzzled 84, "Kilt skirt for men"?
The "kilt" is a skirt for men by it's very nature.
The only difference would really be the side the apron fastens on and the cost, I assume.
That difference may be why the kiltmakers are a bit precious about it.
My advice, you want a kilt, bite the bullet and buy a kilt, end of.
Steve.

[crfriend]

My advice, you want a kilt, bite the bullet and buy a kilt, end of.

And, if you want a skirt, buy a skirt. You can even buy skirts with pleats.

Imagine that.

Why do we make it so difficult?

[STEVIE]

Why do we make it so difficult

That question is further complicated in that it emanates from Scotland.
I wear a kilted pleat skirt regularly and it never gets much comment.
Even this, a blast from the past, which bears even less similarity to any "normal" kilt, is almost invisible.
Fact is, Carl, they are all skirts, but we torture ourselves in semantics.
Could you imagine women insisting that their trousers were slacks, totally slacks and nothing but slacks.
The "Nukilt" as designed and unveiled by me on this here forum a long long time ago,

[crfriend]

Fact is, Carl, they are all skirts, but we torture ourselves in semantics.

Many do, some don't.

As I draw my time on this rock to a close, I am firmly in the latter camp, and see no reason to get tied up in semantics and pseudo-scientific or pseudo-social minutiae because the vast bulk of it is BS, and life is too short to be fed BS for everything. One cannot live that way.

Could you imagine women insisting that their trousers were slacks, totally slacks and nothing but slacks.

I wouldn't even try. What's the point? Is there a lick of profit or advantage to be gained? I'd posit, "No."

The "Nukilt" as designed and unveiled by me on this here forum a long long time ago,

I recall that quite well, and at the time thought, "Nice attempt, but it's an abstract asymmetrical skirt." I also recall your go at a skirt-suit, the "skruit" which looked pretty good.

For as "out there" as I may seem, I'm astonishingly conventional, so will inexorably draw upon conventional base ideas; thus my basis for a skirt-suit being a fairly conventional A-line skirt (pleated or not), paired with a short jacket (best known here as an "Ike jacket" (after General Eisenhower), or a waistcoat and a "Prince Charlie" jacket. (I've never executed on either notion, though).

[Grok]

I noticed interest in skirt suits by several different people. Gave it a bit of thought. I think that an A-line would be a good basis for a suit. Perhaps knee length. But I think that a longer A-line could also work well.

[Kay]

I've been looking into getting a kilt skirt, not like a mens 8 yard kilt but more like the ladies, although knee length and shaped for a man. The latter is of course why a ladies kilt wouldn't work.

That is why I sew my own skirts. Went to town to look for an office skirt. None of the stores had my size. At one store I was asked to leave the changing room as it was women only. They were very apologetic and I understand that they are just employees following management rules so politely complied. The skirt wouldn't have fit me anyway.

Of all clothing, skirts are by far the easiest to sew. Non-plaid kilts are easy too being a wrap so it is very forgiving with the measurements. The only challenge is aligning the plaids if that is what you care about.

[robehickman]

Regarding making kilts, there is a ton of information on the youtube channel 'Robert MacDonald kiltmaker', which is here:

https://www.youtube.com/@robertmacdonaldbespokekilt3063

Has anyone tried it. Had any luck?

I'm a bit puzzled 84, "Kilt skirt for men"?
The "kilt" is a skirt for men by it's very nature.
The only difference would really be the side the apron fastens on and the cost, I assume.
That difference may be why the kiltmakers are a bit precious about it.
My advice, you want a kilt, bite the bullet and buy a kilt, end of.
Steve.

This statement is incorrect. Kilts that are made for a male vs female body are shaped differently in the pleats. In a man's kilt, the lower part of the sewn 'fell' is tapered while the top part is parallel. Woman's kilts however the pleats have a uniform taper over their whole length, and the taper is also larger because of the more pronounced waist to hip difference. Women's kilts also typically have darts sewn in the aprons.

Here is a series wherein the above noted kilt maker converts a kilt made for a man, to fit a woman, and explains all of the factors I mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Fp2eu ... dxijO42-vR

[STEVIE]

The "kilt" is a skirt for men by it's very nature.

This statement is incorrect.

The kilt is a skirt whether it is made for a male or female body.
At base level that statement is perfectly correct but can also cause much controversy as you have amply demonstrated in your assertion.
The construction methods may vary but the outcome is unchanged!
Note too that if two "kilts" were produced fully bespoke, male and female even the costs would be similar.
The major difference being in the apron, still skirts though.
Please take careful note of the words when you make assertions on a quote.
Steve.

[DrFishnets]

The "kilt" is a skirt for men by its very nature.

Indeed it is. However, my aunty disagrees with this statement. A couple of weeks ago she was on my back again about me wearing skirts, dresses and tights and it’s concerning her about my mental health. She asked me if I’m wanting to look different then why don’t I wear a kilt because a kilt would be publicly accepted because it’s a Scotsman’s national dress and it isn’t a skirt. I tried to argue that a kilt is a skirt but she wouldn’t listen and instead said to me that I’m not the guy she used to know which upset me a little.

[Ray]

Try 21st century kilts

An awesome choice of non tartan kilts.

I’m going to a wedding today. I’ll be in my three piece non tartan kilt suit from the above source. Can’t wait!

[STEVIE]

it’s concerning her about my mental health. She asked me if I’m wanting to look different then why don’t I wear a kilt because a kilt would be publicly accepted because it’s a Scotsman’s national dress and it isn’t a skirt.

Oh how I would dearly love to have a discussion with her.
There is a huge added problem around skirts for men in Scotland and it is summed up perfectly in that sentence.
I was told the same thing by one of my sisters and I have missed family weddings simply because I wear the wrong type of skirt.

Try 21st century kilts

Aside from the kilt/skirt malarkey, this is a reason to make an investment in a high end bespoke garment which will last forever.
Steve.

[robehickman]

The "kilt" is a skirt for men by it's very nature.

This statement is incorrect.

The kilt is a skirt whether it is made for a male or female body.
At base level that statement is perfectly correct but can also cause much controversy as you have amply demonstrated in your assertion.
The construction methods may vary but the outcome is unchanged!
Note too that if two "kilts" were produced fully bespoke, male and female even the costs would be similar.
The major difference being in the apron, still skirts though.
Please take careful note of the words when you make assertions on a quote.
Steve.

My objection is/was to your statement that the only difference being the side that the apron fastens being opposite. In an 'off the shelf' or 'bespoke' kilt tailored to a male vs female figure, there are differences in how the pleats and garment as a whole is shaped.

[Mouse]

.............There is a huge added problem around skirts for men in Scotland and it is summed up perfectly in that sentence.

I always thought that Scottish men had an easy in, to skirt wearing. However, Steve and DrFishnets are showing that the tartan kilt is a small extra box attached to the standard man box and is just as restrictive.

To be clear I am not criticising kilts or kilt wearers, just learning about what some of my Scottish friends have to deal with, to wear what they want to.