Men's fear of skirts

[Barleymower]

I think all men are afraid of women on another level. Many men in 2025 are distancing themselves from any feminine characteristics, they need to be as opposite as possible to women. It explains why many men recoil in horror at the thought of wearing a skirt. The video doesn't mention skirts btw. Which is why I have posted in "off topic".
The video below from Connor Beaton provides a lot of insight into men's behaviour.
https://youtu.be/VcJaadJ9NRo?si=qchWwq-bGdn2tTAl

[Mouse]

I think all men are afraid of women on another level. Many men in 2025 are distancing themselves from any feminine characteristics, they need to be as opposite as possible to women. It explains why many men recoil in horror at the thought of wearing a skirt. The video doesn't mention skirts btw. Which is why I have posted in "off topic".
The video below from Connor Beaton provides a lot of insight into men's behaviour.
https://youtu.be/VcJaadJ9NRo?si=qchWwq-bGdn2tTAl

I know in my own life that what kept me from displaying feminine characteristics was the heavy 1960s christian message against being gay, which still comes from part of my family. This collided inside my brain with my love of women and the things they wear.

I found the video quite hard going since I get lost in some of his terminology. The one point I did take was when he said "the long haired guys with the guitar have it sorted", I don't have a guitar, but I am still married after 33 years, to a woman that I am not afraid of!!

[crfriend]

I know in my own life that what kept me from displaying feminine characteristics was the heavy 1960s christian message against being gay, which still comes from part of my family. This collided inside my brain with my love of women and the things they wear.

Calling somebody homosexual in so-called western "civilisation" is the utmost possible slur going -- and everybody is fully aware of that from the most pathetic school-yard bully to our own families. This, in fact, is what caused the final rift between my grandfather and I when his advancing senility removed the last of his filters and he outright accused me of being queer because of my long hair -- in spite of knowing full well I was courting my future wife at the time. I turned on my heel, walked away, and the next time I saw him he was in a box. That game is poisonous; don't play it because there are no winners.

The one point I did take was when he said "the long haired guys with the guitar have it sorted", I don't have a guitar, but I am still married after 33 years, to a woman that I am not afraid of!!

If one is afraid of his partner then one is not paired off correctly; the trust between the two has to be absolute because things in life can get really "interesting" (read, dangerous) very quickly and the two have to function instinctively as a team. Recall that there are no rehearsals for life, and one does not get a retry at it. If there's fear, there's a lack of trust, and without trust it's better to simply walk away.

[Barleymower]

Yes he does use a lot of Technical language but I did not allow that to stop me having a think about what was said and applying it to MIS:

1. Minute 4.45. He says that women are the gate keepers of sex. There's no surprise here. I think we all have noticed this. he does say though, a man in some ways defines his masculinity through his success with women. I'm not convinced by this, a man will know he is a man whether or not he attracts a mate. Although if a man tries and is unsuccessful over and over, it will affect him mentally and he may not see himself as masculine as the men he sees with girl after girl.

2. Minute 9.40. Men who lack internal power will seek affirmation from a women. That is he will ask her "am I enough"? I think this plays into the fact that women can just "be" but men have to prove their manhood. It's not a question for other men either. he is asking the women "am I man enough for you?".

These two things I think effect MIS significantly. You have to be supremely sure of yourself to wear a skirt or dress (in the modern world). You are saying to the women "look beyond the skirt and see the man".

3. Minute 12.53. Women's emotional power in dominance, manipulation and coercion. Women have emotional powers men don't have or don't use. This can be a big handicap for MIS if the women in his life says no.

4. Self-worth in opposition to women. Many men define their manliness by being the exact opposite to women. These men are the most problematic to MIS because these men seek refuge in being butch and manly.

5. Minute 18.45. Ancient civilisations trained men in combat, but alongside swordsmanship they had to learn to dance, to read poetry, write music and of course men and women both wore dresses and skirts. They we much more rounded than the men of today.

My overall feeling is that men and women of today have lost their way. I think that skirts could be a worthwhile future for everyone bringing men and women closer together. But like Grok said: Not in this lifetime.

[crfriend]

1. He says that women are the gate keepers of sex. There's no surprise here.

This was never an issue for me as I came to the conclusion -- before puberty -- that I would never sire progeny as I'd glimpsed what the future would likely hold -- and I was not wrong in that. Thus, that matter was never of any real importance.

2. Men who lack internal power will seek affirmation from a women.

Anybody that requires that sort of affirmation is on a fool's errand. There are many ways to gauge how one is doing in the world without requiring the input of others (who are as likely to undermine one as not). There are fairly trivial ways to do this.

Worse, needing external affirmation is tantamount to relinquishing any control over one's own life. I was pushed deeply suicidal a number of years ago when I allowed that to happen and only recovered when I realised I was on a fool's errand. That, I can tell you, was a very, very dark place indeed, and I barely escaped.

3. Women's emotional power in dominance, manipulation and coercion. Women have emotional powers men don't have or don't use.

Women are grand-masters at psy-ops (psychological operations) and deploy those tools with sometimes lethal accuracy. Don't fall victim; walk away from the perpetrator.

4. Self-worth in opposition to women. Many men define their manliness by being the exact opposite to women.

Why? On the face of it this makes precious little sense. In the grand scheme of things men and women are "horns on the same bull".

5. Ancient civilisations trained men in combat, but alongside swordsmanship they had to learn to dance, to read poetry, write music and of course men and women both wore dresses and skirts. They we much more rounded than the men of today.

You'll get no argument from me on those points. It's vital to be well-rounded. I cannot tell people enough how important music and music theory was to my career in computing -- especially at the hardware level. All of the arts are important to us as whole individuals and creatures!

My overall feeling is that men and women of today have lost their way. I think that skirts could be a worthwhile future for everyone bringing men and women closer together. But like Grok said: Not in this lifetime.

Those are accurate statements, all.