Skirt Cafe is an on-line community dedicated to exploring, promoting and advocating skirts and kilts as a fashion choice for men, formerly known as men in skirts. We do this in the context of men's fashion freedom --- an expansion of choices beyond those commonly available for men to include kilts, skirts and other garments. We recognize a diversity of styles our members feel comfortable wearing, and do not exclude any potential choices. Continuing dialog on gender is encouraged in the context of fashion freedom for men. See here for more details.
Yonkas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:47 pm
Unfortunately, it is difficult to find long-sleeved, flat-bottom-hemmed shirts that don't also hug your waist and bunch up your skirt.
1. Go to the nearest charity shop and buy a few men's shirts, size won't matter.
2. Buy a new or second hand sewing machine and get a hemming foot for it.
3. Practice, practice, practice.... until you can re-hem a shirt to the desired length. If they are too wide at the waist, then learn how to take them in to the desired size.
All instructions are available on YouTube and ask on the sewing section of the forum if you have any questions.
Oh, and if you can hem and seam, you can make your own skirts too.....
Skirts are comfort first, expression second. I started with an A-line and opaques at home, then grocery runs. No arousal; it’s like choosing shorts over jeans.
My wife was wary, but seeing it wasn’t a bedroom thing helped. I’m not trying to pass, just a guy who likes the cut and movement, often with sneakers and a hoodie.I keep anything sexual separate, on my phone, in the browser with no installs, and I can even continue later on another device. If that’s your style, there are porn games for android that work like that.
Neither. I just like to have the same choices that females enjoy - and to have a change now and again. Most of the time I wear trousers because they are more convenient, more secure, warmer and so on. But just now and again, especially if it's a warm day or I intend to lounge around, or I get bored with my usual trousers, I will choose something else. And why shouldn't I?
Then there's the pattern/color matching issue. Color coordination is hard enough for a man, who, like most men, are raised without any training in it. But since shirts are the primary means for men to express themselves, men's shirts are often patterned in motifs that flagrantly conflict with skirts.
This can be solved by the application of science and willpower. Colour-coordination is a leaned art, and one that takes an application of will to learn -- but it is learnable and once basic knowledge is had, occasionally "breaking the rules" can work quite well indeed. Note that this mostly applies to solids; patterns cause further confusion, so if you have a patterned shirt, best to pair it with a solid skirt. Or break the direct interface by wearing something else, e.g. a jacket or a waistcoat.
Or perhaps pair a solid colored shirt with a patterned skirt.
There is material in the Style thread that might help with colour-coordination. At least provide helpful hints.
If your rig includes more than one patterned item, you may need to coordinate these as well.
Fetish? In my little trip to mumsnet, it was said that my collection of skirts amounted to a fetish. I can own 100 skirts and it is not a fetish unless I add a sexual meaning to it. Personnally I don't have sexual connection with my skirts but that doesn't mean that I think there's something wrong with sonebody who does. Each to their own.
Gender expression? Everything we do expresses our gender. I'm not aware that anything I do gives people the impression that I'm anything other that a guy.
So why do I do it? There's a girl part of me, she's always been there and I expect she always will. We don't get to choose these what we are so i give her some nice clothes.
Barleymower wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 4:41 pm
Fetish? In my little trip to mumsnet, it was said that my collection of skirts amounted to a fetish. I can own 100 skirts and it is not a fetish unless I add a sexual meaning to it. Personnally I don't have sexual connection with my skirts but that doesn't mean that I think there's something wrong with sonebody who does. Each to their own.
Gender expression? Everything we do expresses our gender. I'm not aware that anything I do gives people the impression that I'm anything other that a guy.
So why do I do it? There's a girl part of me, she's always been there and I expect she always will. We don't get to choose these what we are so i give her some nice clothes.
Barley, I also agree. There has always been a girl part of me and she needs to express herself. It is unfortunate that I suppressed her and waited so many years before allowing her to express herself. I am gender non-conforming and present as a feminine male but have no desire to be considered as trans because I am not. I am just a feminine male or "girly-boy".
jamie001 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:10 pm
I am gender non-conforming and present as a feminine male but have no desire to be considered as trans because I am not. I am just a feminine male or "girly-boy".
Yonkas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:47 pmesides the point. For you it might be easy to throw on an outfit tailored for womens' bodies, but this is not so for everyone. Skirts are part of an outfit, which means, unless you are going topless, you need a top to complement it. Unfortunately, I find that most men's tops look terrible with a skirt.
I've found that men's dress shirts along with waistcoats (vests) can look very, very good with skirts and offer further opportunities (and confusion!) for expression with colour, cut, and fabric. Waistcoats also solve the bunching issue with most men's shirts by simply hiding it. Perhaps this might work for you, perhaps not -- it all depends on body-type and overall geometry.
Yes, trying to create a hybrid rig with components that weren't designed to go together. Sometimes, with careful consideration of the different parts, you can come up with something that looks decent.
This is an interesting one, because I argued about this with someone on Quora. The question asked why guys wearing skirts, panties, etc. are labeled as "crossdressers" while women who dressed in more traditionally masculine clothing aren't regarded in the same way. I saw one person postulating that it could be for fetishistic reasons. I chose to respond to this passage of his answer specifically, labeling it as a pointless assessment (because it is), and it's no one's business but the one wearing those clothes what that reason is. I concluded my comment that skirts are more practical for men for anatomical reasons and that, alone, should be for a "utility reason".
*Before I made this post, I went back to look at that old comment thread from four years ago. I noticed that only my first comment was still there, but the rest of the chain is gone. Much of this post is based on my own memory with how the discussion went down. It wasn't terribly long, but it was no less frustrating.
For context, the person responded back and immediately denounced every single point I made, double-downed on his own refuted arguments, and used the "It's my answer, and I chose to answer the way I did" excuse, as if people shouldn't be allowed to criticize you when give them a window of opportunity to do so. I replied back, instantly telling him that his answer was based on a false assumption about men who wear women's clothing. One guy on the Internet with anecdotal experience doesn't speak for every single man who crossdresses (or just wears something that really should be for both sexes) on the sole basis that he knows "a lot of men" who do have a fetish for dressing as the opposite sex.
What makes this ironic is that the abrasive git has the nerve to even suggest this "fetish" rubbish, while his whole entire purpose on Quora is to promote men in leggings, as if they aren't commonly fetishized. He went out of his way, not to counter the points I made, but to insult me, disable the comments to his answer so I wouldn't be able to directly respond back, and I think he blocked and muted me too. Hey, moron. ******* moron. If you didn't want your BS answer to be challenged, you should've just disabled the ability for people to comment on your post from the get-go. How can anybody be proud to be this ignorant, and still think that they won something just by blocking someone on the Internet like a coward after they were critical of what that person originally posted? Why are so many people like this?
If I joined this website back when this thread was still relatively new, I would've definitely posted a link to it, or have screenshots at the ready. Again, most of this is going by memory, and I can't find the rest of both of our content to re-read.
In truth, anyone who suggests there's some sexual fetish at play just has no clue what they're talking about. Like that dumb asshole from four years ago. Gender expression is all and well good, but the most important should just be: "Because I want to."
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Barleymower wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 4:41 pm
Fetish? In my little trip to mumsnet, it was said that my collection of skirts amounted to a fetish. I can own 100 skirts and it is not a fetish unless I add a sexual meaning to it. Personnally I don't have sexual connection with my skirts but that doesn't mean that I think there's something wrong with sonebody who does. Each to their own.
Gender expression? Everything we do expresses our gender. I'm not aware that anything I do gives people the impression that I'm anything other that a guy.
So why do I do it? There's a girl part of me, she's always been there and I expect she always will. We don't get to choose these what we are so i give her some nice clothes.
Barley, I also agree. There has always been a girl part of me and she needs to express herself. It is unfortunate that I suppressed her and waited so many years before allowing her to express herself. I am gender non-conforming and present as a feminine male but have no desire to be considered as trans because I am not. I am just a feminine male or "girly-boy".
Jamie, I've lived for so many years under strict oppression that i could not change if I wanted to. There would also be so many good things about being a man, husband and father that I would be in danger of loosing.
I play the hand I've been dealt.
Still if one day someone handed me a magic wand.. i would certainly have some fun
My wearing skirts and dresses is basically me expressing my identity and it’s me. Also, I am very arty and love the design and style aspects of women’s clothes that I don’t get with drab mens clothes. I also find wearing skirts, dresses and tights very comfortable and it releases the endorphins in my brain which is good for my anxiety and depression. It’s a sort of therapy.
However, I have always had a nylon stockings and fishnet tights fetish and always loved seeing women wear them. As much as it pains me to say this but I feel at times me wearing black sheer tights/pantyhose and fishnets is a bit of a fetish with me but it makes me feel good. However, the tights aspect of my dress style is the only fetish part of it. The skirts and dresses I don’t see as fetish.
I am still a heterosexual man and I wouldn’t change that for the world but I really enjoy wearing skirts and dresses and designing my own outfits which brings out the artist and designer in me.
My name is Arty. I’m a guy with a passion for wearing skirts, dresses and tights and a hobbiest musician and artist.
All I can add here is that for me, to wear skirts or whatever type, kilts/utility kilts, sarongs, is certainly not a fetish.
Kilts and utility kilts are at times a bit of "don't screw with me" when paired with a leather biker type jacket and dark glasses...
Sarongs/malong/lavalavas are cooler and more comfortable than shorts in the warmer seasons and climates.
In the Philippines whether at our place in Manila of with my wife's family in her hometown, around the house sarong/malong was the choice. Think 31 to 32°C and 85% humidity. Same in Brisbane during the summer.
As for gender expression, whatever that is supposed to mean, I'm an everyday bloke, married, with one son. Plain and simple.
I remember the feeling of wearing a kilt, and later a skirt, for the first time. It is not always easy to disentangle euphoria from arousal, but I would say that my aim has been to normalize skirts for myself (as I already have done for kilts), so that it is just a comfortable way of dressing that contents me.
