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[Coder]

What is this obsession with more rules; more boxes; more dictation and control over lives and dress??????

Amen!

[Myopic Bookworm]

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Think of it, in this context, as advice for a formal event at which you do not wish to stick out. If you turn up at a "black tie" event wearing a denim mini skirt, a T shirt, and a baseball cap, you will certainly be free, unconstrained, and comfortable, but everyone else will think you are a nitwit.

[Faldaguy]

I doubt a Black Tie event would appeal, & I'll worry not about being a 'nitwit' -- no more so there than everyday on the street. Some concession to standards so you don't stick out like a sore thumb and not embarrass a host or worthy function perhaps, but once again folks are falling into the trap of conformity -- for what real purpose? What is the merit? I can think of a bunch of negatives, but not much that I would truly admire, respect, or consider a worthy contribution to humanity. Looking nice for 'arts' sake and of course being hygienic-- but clown suits for the sake of conformity or to proclaim 'you have arrived' or that is your view of a good use of resources....no. I seek to be accepted for the human being I am, not for my attire. So, I ask again --- why an obsession with rules for attire and fitting into boxes? Mostly, all the men at Black Tie events look like a bunch of Penguins with no distinguishing character; it is the few who break the tradition -- even in small ways, that show some sign of being a person and not a cardboard cutout.

[Grok]

Posibilites For The Future.

First lets consider clothing from Western Civilization:

From the male side of the aisle there are two possibilities: 1. Modern. 2. Retro.

From the other side of the aisle there are two possibilities: 1. Modern. 2. Retro. (I would note that there was a thread regarding a few members who tried hoop skirts.)

I recall a defunct kilt forum which listed open ended mens wear from different cultures, including non-Western cultures.

Combining garments from these different sources, the rules are no longer rules but, at most, very general guidelines. Or hints.

[DrFishnets]

Think of it, in this context, as advice for a formal event at which you do not wish to stick out. If you turn up at a "black tie" event wearing a denim mini skirt, a T shirt, and a baseball cap, you will certainly be free, unconstrained, and comfortable, but everyone else will think you are a nitwit.

The way I see it is that I’d rather feel free, unconstrained and comfortable wearing a skirt etc than to obey to those narrow minded bigots. I personally find all those rules and boxes of what men should wear absolutely depressing. The only time I’d wear a black tie and suit is when I go to funerals out of respect.

[Mouse]

The thing the gets me is the un fairness of it all. Men are tightly constrained in what they are allowed to wear, where as the women are given a dress length, and free to be creative. At the award shows there is pages of news print about what each women wore, but nothing about the men, unless they wore a dress or something crazy.

[STEVIE]

What is this obsession with more rules; more boxes; more dictation and control over lives and dress??????

Amen!

Note too that all this is being mooted by men who profess to believe in fashion freedom for men.
Nah, men aren't the problem, their own worst enemies are they?
Steve.

[crfriend]

Note too that all this is being mooted by men who profess to believe in fashion freedom for men.
Nah, men aren't the problem, their own worst enemies are they?

That's just a wee bit of irony, Stevie. I don't think anybody else picked up on it.

"We have met the enemy and he is us."

[Barleymower]

The thing the gets me is the un fairness of it all. Men are tightly constrained in what they are allowed to wear, where as the women are given a dress length, and free to be creative. At the award shows there is pages of news print about what each women wore, but nothing about the men, unless they wore a dress or something crazy.

Good women are found in every corner of earth, unfortunately the earth's round.

[Grok]

Different styles of hats.

[KeithWearsSkirts]

Definitely. I just wore a waistcoat with a skirt to work last week. Not for everyone but for those of us to approach skirts from a genderless clothing approach, a waistcoat is a nice way to balance a skirt. A waistcoat is also a nice way to layer, adding another color or (in my case more often) texture to an outfit.

[Barleymower]

Definitely. I just wore a waistcoat with a skirt to work last week. Not for everyone but for those of us to approach skirts from a genderless clothing approach, a waistcoat is a nice way to balance a skirt. A waistcoat is also a nice way to layer, adding another color or (in my case more often) texture to an outfit.

Im going to look into waistcoats. Men's shirts and jumpers are mostly long, except short sleeve shirts and tees. Ive now got some shorter but not cropped jumpers and some shorter sea seasalt shirts.
Mixing skirts with mens shirts and jumpers results in a lopsided look with everything decending towards the floor.

[Jim]

Men's shirts and jumpers are mostly long, ...
Mixing skirts with men's shirts and jumpers results in a lopsided look with everything descending towards the floor.

Long shirts are often meant to be tucked under the waistband. This works with skirts as well as two-legged garments.

[Barleymower]

Men's shirts and jumpers are mostly long, ...
Mixing skirts with men's shirts and jumpers results in a lopsided look with everything descending towards the floor.

Long shirts are often meant to be tucked under the waistband. This works with skirts as well as two-legged garments.

Very true jim, the problem i often encounter is I'm a tubby 16. Just enough room to get it on. I'm also fond of untucked shirts.

[Faldaguy]

I too have worn untucked shirts for years, in part for comfort, but in part to hide some excess gut. I'm not particularly aware of 'style' so much as simply looks pleasing -- and often that does not conform to any rules, even if I 'know' them. I grant women have had a life-time of putting together formula combinations that seem to work, but also have a knack for exploring outside the rules in ways that are quite remarkable and pleasant. I think we men simply need to do the same -- we don't have the same shape, dimensions, or many other factors to direct a "look" --- therefore, I find trying to emulate a woman's look/rule is both impractical and unwise. We are a "new" entity in skirts/dresses -- let's use it to fill our needs and set our own path. For now, my shirts remain hanging out-- but I'd sure like to find a few more practical shoes but with a tab of color to blend with the rest!