Style

[Grok]

More on ascots.

[Grok]

I am sometimes puzzled by computer algorithms. Sometimes things will appear on the right side of my screen that have nothing to do with anything I googled.

Something about selling mens coats from past eras. When I checked the web site I found that they sell a diversity of old styles that may be hard to find.

The Historical Emporium.

[crfriend]

I am sometimes puzzled by computer algorithms. Sometimes things will appear on the right side of my screen that have nothing to do with anything I googled.

Something about selling mens coats from past eras. When I checked the web site I found that they sell a diversity of old styles that may be hard to find.

The Historical Emporium.

Contemplate the number of times you typed the word "style" into Google to generate these several (dozen) pages of one-sentence click-bait. That alone would have been more than enough to steer Google's algorithms into putting up Google's own click-bait for you.

Google are not necessarily your friend.

[Seb]

I usually end up with Google ads for something I've already bought for months after due to the research into it prior to the purchase.

[Grok]

Commenting on the levels of style listed which I linked to:

1. Casual. Basically described as having two levels. I believe that the higher end fits the term "dressy drab."

2. Business casual. Definitely looks dressier than Casual, if just barely.

3. Business/Informal. My preferred term would be "Business Formal," because a business suit is definitely formal.

4. Semi-formal. Disagree with the "semi" part, this is definitely Formal.

5a. Black tie. For those rare special occasions. Think black tuxedo-the penguin look.

5b. Black tie optional. Black suits are deemed to be the most formal of business suits.

6. White tie. Not listed. Deemed the most formal of all. Men wearing white tuxedos.

[crfriend]

You forgot:

0. "Athleisure"/grunge. Which seems to dominate what we see today.

"Business informal" is an oxymoron. So is "Business casual". Both are internally contradictory.

"Semi-formal" is essentially elevated casual, which can vary from grunge to fairly elegant.

[Grok]

From the list, I regard Smart Casual as incoherent.

I think that we could move Smart Casual into the Casual category. Which would have three gradations, in increasing order of formality:

1a. Blue jeans, T-shirt Actually, I am tempted to lump these with athleisure.

1b. Khakis, cargo, polo shirt, henley.

1c. Nice Khakis, Chinos, polo shirts, other collared shirts.

I believe we could add an intermediate category, which I will label as "2." This would be a tie-less look. This may include sports jackets/sports coats, plus the least formal of suits. (See the James Bond link). This is more formal than casual, less formal than a business suit.

Though "2" is more formal than Casual, it can fit in well for informal settings/activities/events.

Revised list:

0. Grunge/athleisure

1. Casual

2. Intermediate

3. Business formal

4. Black tie

5. White tie

[Grok]

Three different kinds of jackets.

[crfriend]

3. Business attire

[Grok]

3. Business attire. <Thank you!

Thinking back half a century, when I was in high school, what I usually wore = "business casual" of the link. I typically wore slacks with a nice (if bland) shirt. Which put my outfit a step above what the other boys wore.

Didn't stick with after I graduated, though. Given how dull even "business casual" was, I became apathetic about what I wore. It got to the point where I just threw on whatever, so long as my naked-ness was covered up.

Didn't get interested in clothes again until I noticed a man wearing what I now know was a Utilikilt. After that I became motivated to upgrade my appearance. With a nice shirt even a plain skirt can readily get you up to the "business casual" level. Indeed, it should be fairly easy to climb to the Intermediate level I described-most skirts lend themselves to a somewhat formal appearance.

Given my life circumstances, I am not likely to purchase stuff to reach the business attire level. If I need it only once or twice a decade, there is another option. There are a few companies in the Seattle area that rent out business suits and tuxedos. Yes, I would be compromising by wearing a trousers rig, but the convenience may make it worthwhile.

[Grok]

Checking online, I noticed that there are companies that sell garments based on, for example, Medieval designs, or designs from antiquity. Occurs to me that in addition to borrowing from the other side of the aisle, one could also go retro.

[Bertino56]

Aside from costume companies, you can rent costumes from theatrical organizations.
For example, Oregon Shakespeare Festival has a huge costume bank which they rent out,
typically to other theatre organizations (such as high-schools or community theatre groups).
I'm not sure about individuals. They are non-profit, and get extra support from this rental
activity. I have donated to them. Every year (I think) they discard costumes, and have a
big sell-off. Just the thing if you're looking for a full suit of armour, or full Scottish regalia,
or "special" shoes, or maybe just a kilt. osfcostumerentals.org

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[Myopic Bookworm]

In the UK, "white tie" does not mean white tuxedos: it means men in tailcoats and white bowties, and women in full length gowns.

Incidentally, there is a parallel code for kilts. "Day dress" roughly equates to "jacket and tie" business formal, where a kilt is worn with a tweed jacket and tie and leather sporran. "Black tie" typically expects a kilt to be worn with a black jacket (typically in Scottish style with silver buttons) and a black bow tie or lace jabot, with a semi-dress sporran (typically with some decoration such as tassels or silverware; mine has a fake sealskin front) and a sgean dhu. This is what you typically see at a Scottish country dancing ball. "White tie" would rarely be required outside royal events, and technically requires a full dress sporran with silver trappings and a fur front, white bow tie or full lace jabot, potentially a plaid over the shoulder, and possibly a dirk at the belt.

[Patric11]

Myopic Bookworm wrote:
> In the UK, "white tie" does not mean white tuxedos: it means men
> in tailcoats and white bowties, and women in full length gowns.
>
> Incidentally, there is a parallel code for kilts. "Day dress"
> roughly equates to "jacket and tie" business formal, where a kilt
> is worn with a tweed jacket and tie and leather sporran. "Black
> tie" typically expects a kilt to be worn with a black jacket
> (typically in Scottish style with silver buttons) and a black bow tie or
> lace jabot, with a semi-dress sporran (typically with some decoration such
> as tassels or silverware; mine has a fake sealskin front) and a sgean dhu.
> This is what you typically see at a Scottish country dancing ball.
> "White tie" would rarely be required outside royal events, and
> technically requires a full dress sporran with silver trappings and a fur
> front, white bow tie or full lace jabot, potentially a plaid over the
> shoulder, and possibly a dirk at the belt.
That's super interesting I had no idea there was such a detailed dress code for kilts that parallels traditional formalwear. The idea of rocking a plaid over the shoulder and a dirk at a royal event sounds pretty epic. Definitely adds a whole new level of flair to formal dress

[Faldaguy]

What is this obsession with more rules; more boxes; more dictation and control over lives and dress??????