Gone Quiet

[crfriend]

Could it be that no male celebs are seen out at the moment in skirts?

Why do we insist on placing such undue importance to "celebrity", "jocks", and the like -- to the complete ignorance of the common man? Why do we denigrate "the little guy" to boot the egos of the "superstars"? Do any of the accolades stick to us? No. Do we derive any benefit from idolising the "celebrity"? No. So why?

[Mouse]

The eating of fondue was promoted by the Swiss Cheese Association in 1930. Suddenly fondue became a national obsession and has been ever since. How do we make skirts the fondue of clothes?

Fun fact, when Mrs Mouse agreed to marry me, we celebrated with a fondue in the Swiss centre near the Swiss clock in Leicester Square, London. Today the same plot is the M&M World and the W Hotel.

[Modoc]

Could it be that no male celebs are seen out at the moment in skirts?

Why do we insist on placing such undue importance to "celebrity", "jocks", and the like -- to the complete ignorance of the common man? Why do we denigrate "the little guy" to boot the egos of the "superstars"? Do any of the accolades stick to us? No. Do we derive any benefit from idolising the "celebrity"? No. So why?

This is a strange part of human nature. The answer(s) are complicated and multi-layered, for sure. We, little guys, seem to find courage or maybe just encouragement in knowing that famous individuals exhibit the behaviors we wish to emulate. Maybe because their higher level of visibility seems to help establish that the behavior, dress, or what have you is ok. Our stated desires for individualism are often overshadowed by our desire for communal support. That's just how we are as humans, but there are plenty of us okay with going our own way, within limits of course

[Barleymower]

My own view is the media is looking for something that will make people look. They rate success by views. Is he gay? Is he trans? No he's just wearing a skirt.

I think it's a good thing, the more celebs do this the less shocking it becomes, making MIS a non event. If we don't see anything then maybe it's less of a big deal, like women wearing trousers?

[TSH]

150 years ago it would have been unusual to see a middle class boy under the age of five who was NOT wearing a dress.

You could show a picture of a young FDR in one, and you'll still have people denying what they can seen with their own eyes. That's how incredulous a human being can act. "That's OBVIOUSLY a girl; boys were never subjugated to wear dresses and skirts until a certain age!" "It's not true!" "I don't care — boys should NEVER wear dresses! It confuses their minds!" Tell them that dresses aren't solely for girls, then they won't be "confused". Thick-headed adults are always the problem. There wouldn't be any "confusion" if society didn't gendered everything and just left people alone to wear what they please. Dumbasses. Just a world shock full of morons.

Could it be that no male celebs are seen out at the moment in skirts?

Why do we insist on placing such undue importance to "celebrity", "jocks", and the like -- to the complete ignorance of the common man? Why do we denigrate "the little guy" to boot the egos of the "superstars"? Do any of the accolades stick to us? No. Do we derive any benefit from idolising the "celebrity"? No. So why?

I want to add to the point BM made about fondue. This analogy doesn't jive well with me because if it's a "national obsession" and not a global acceptance, which is what we're trying to accomplish with MiS, then it's ultimately futile. Also, since fondue has its origin traced back to Switzerland, and the promotion did happen in that country, it makes perfect sense why it's a celebrated dish there. I also don't understand the need to appeal to celebrities who don't do nearly as much to help our cause as they perhaps should, and when they do, they face backlash from people making gross (and more often than I care to know, conspiratorial) assumptions when they have no business doing so.

[Barleymower]

Let me explain.. no that would take too long. Let me sum up.

1. Anything can catch on in the right circumstances.
2. Celebs and the media are all about self promotion. They don't give hoot about the subjects they discuss / promote. That means us MIS. Don't wait for anything in the media to do you any favours. It won't happen.

I think it will eventually work itself out and the genders will come together. It's a natural progression.
As mankind's understanding evolves we will become more understanding of peoples need for self expression. Then maybe men will be more valued not be commiting suicide insuch great numbers.

[Barleymower]

The eating of fondue was promoted by the Swiss Cheese Association in 1930. Suddenly fondue became a national obsession and has been ever since. How do we make skirts the fondue of clothes?

Fun fact, when Mrs Mouse agreed to marry me, we celebrated with a fondue in the Swiss centre near the Swiss clock in Leicester Square, London. Today the same plot is the M&M World and the W Hotel.

Mouse I think there is a proper Swiss restaurant still in central London.
St Moritz Restaurant
+44 20 7734 3324

https://g.co/kgs/TgJfxYu

[geron]

Fun fact, when Mrs Mouse agreed to marry me, we celebrated with a fondue in the Swiss centre near the Swiss clock in Leicester Square, London.

Coo! When Mrs Geron and I were first married, we used to go there sometimes too. But children put a stop to such adventures....

[crfriend]

I think it will eventually work itself out and the genders will come together. It's a natural progression.
As mankind's understanding evolves we will become more understanding of peoples need for self expression. Then maybe men will be more valued not be commiting suicide insuch great numbers.

Well, the genders do have to come together at some point in time because that's the way that humans reproduce.

To your other point, men need to be cut some slack in the modern world, and need some space to unwind from the manic act of being "masculine enough" to "meet muster". Some of us are soft-spoken and gentle on the outside, but on the inside can be hard as nails if the need arises. The issue is that the external manifestation gets confused with the internal reality.

[Faldaguy]

You sure ain't much of a man if you don't have the balls to wear a skirt -- and that, I suggest tells us most men are blowhards without any real guts despite wearing the man box uniform. Fitting in a box is the last thing I'd call masculine.

[skirtyscot]

Am I imagining it, or has the progress to accept men wearing skirt stalled? We don't seem to be hearing much about it in the media these days, even among fashionistas and there are few stories in the press relating to it. Is this a temporary lull? Or are we facing some blowback because people are tiring of the trans-activism lobby?

After Stevie and I appeared on the front cover of the magazine section of the Glasgow Herald last year, everyone else realised that we were the zenith of men in skirts, and they couldn't hope to be as stylish as us, so they gave up. So it's our fault entirely. Sorry.

[Mouse]

"Gone Quiet" I would argue that this is actually what we want. We want men to be able to go about their business in a skirt and get no push back from society and the normal population in the street. In most ways, I have this as I type here in the UK. For the past few years I have worn skirts everyday. I don't wear trousers, everything I do is in a skirt. The only occasion push back is from close family and to be fair, that is only very occasionally, and even then there are ways round the issue which do not mean trousers.

I think I have as much freedom as the average western woman. So, I don't need to make a noise or have a noise made for me. Anybody can do what I do, I am not special. All you have to do is quietly put on a skirt and get on with your life.

Let me tell you a story. I held a door to a London department store for two guys to enter. Looking down, I saw one of them was wearing a long white floor length silky skirt....Part of my brain, the non socially aware part, was jumping up and down saying I should make contact and ask him about his skirt. Fortunately the more socially aware part of my brain was awake, and pointed out, that to refer to what he was wearing as a "skirt" may result with a punch on the nose....I continued holding the door, kept quiet and smiled..... Running around the UK, especially London and other towns and cities, you will bump into many men wearing skirts, although please do not call what they are wearing skirts, or assume they are gay, it will not end well. In an about turn, the amusing/sad fact is that many females, associated with these guys, do not have the same freedoms as you may expect a female in the UK to have. If you think your man box is constricting, you should see their box.

[DrFishnets]

Nothing reported in the media just now doesn’t really bother me. I don’t need the media telling me to wear or not to wear skirts. I think for myself and now what I wear is purely skirts, dresses, tights and leggings all the time. The only time I’ll wear what is seen as mens clothes is when I wear my kilt. When I need clothes it will be at the women’s clothes department I will head to from now on. I was in town today wearing my new black t-shirt midi dress which goes down to my calves and opaque black tights with timberland boots and a dark burgundy waistcoat and a French beret and I felt great and liberated. Everything went fine and no reaction from people in tne town expect from a couple of football supporters who looked at me with curiosity.

[Mouse]

I was in town today wearing my new black t-shirt midi dress which goes down to my calves and opaque black tights with timberland boots and a dark burgundy waistcoat and a French beret and I felt great and liberated. Everything went fine and no reaction from people in tne town expect from a couple of football supporters who looked at me with curiosity.

The feeling when you are free can be quite addictive. I presume the football supporters were just trying to work out what team you supported. I alway think grown men in football shirts look strangely odd to me, especially if they haven't got the physique of a football player. It is however refreshing to see men in bright colours, which most football club shirts are.

[DrFishnets]

I presume the football supporters were just trying to work out what team you supported. I alway think grown men in football shirts look strangely odd to me, especially if they haven't got the physique of a football player. It is however refreshing to see men in bright colours, which most football club shirts are.

Haha yeah they probably thought I was a Hearts of Midlothian supporter with the maroon burgundy waistcoat. Seriously thought I’m not into football at all and have no interest in it. The only sport I like is cycling.