What makes a skirt manly v feminine

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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This is something I wish a company, such has Haggar, Levi Stause, etc.,
would be willing to make. My idea of a "Manly" skirt would be as follows.....
(you'll have to use your imaginations here ;) )
Basic skirt drawing to look like pants JPEG 2017-05-30.jpg
The top part, from the bottom of the zipper, up to the waist line
of the skirt, would look like a pair of dress slacks(or jeans).
From the bottom of the zipper down to the hem line, each pannel
would taper out 2 inches on both sides of the pannel, until you
reach the hem line. The extra 4 inches per pannel would give
a free-flowing hem line and allow for long strides when walking
or running. The circumfrence of the hem would be 16 inches
larger than the waist.

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Uncle Al wrote:This is something I wish a company, such has Haggar, Levi Stause, etc.,
would be willing to make. My idea of a "Manly" skirt would be as follows.....
(you'll have to use your imaginations here ;) )
Basic skirt drawing to look like pants JPEG 2017-05-30.jpg
The top part, from the bottom of the zipper, up to the waist line
of the skirt, would look like a pair of dress slacks(or jeans).
From the bottom of the zipper down to the hem line, each pannel
would taper out 2 inches on both sides of the pannel, until you
reach the hem line. The extra 4 inches per pannel would give
a free-flowing hem line and allow for long strides when walking
or running. The circumfrence of the hem would be 16 inches
larger than the waist.

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Al, Add a couple of patch pockets lower down and you have replicated the Midas cargo skirt, well, pretty close to it, I think they are my favourite skirts and now Midas is gone I treasure them and only wear them when going skirted in public. The rest of the time it is cheap EBay skirts, Macabis and skirts from Style J for me. Once I have the money I am going to ask the local seamstress to copy them in the hopes that I can add more "son of midas" cargo skirts to my collection.
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About to get changed for work, but currently wearing a floor length "jersey skirt", black, very stretchy and with pockets. It is so ridiculously comfortable to wear. Yes it sometimes gets caught under my feet but then just stretches. It was a cheap EBay offering and I like it, first stretchy skirt with pockets I have seen.

Nice! Great for slouching around the house.
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Uncle Al wrote:This is something I wish a company, such has Haggar, Levi Stause, etc.
One of these companies making a skirt for men would be a major breakthrough.
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I think men can wear anything they like but here is a general perspective of what some others consider acceptable.
https://au.pinterest.com/patagoniakid/s ... s/?lp=true

Actually if one keeps scrolling down it gets a bit more loose and less predictable and includes the following which looks like a nice cheerful summer number:
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/27232772727072860/
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Uncle Al wrote:This is something I wish a company, such has Haggar, Levi Stause, etc.,
would be willing to make. My idea of a "Manly" skirt would be as follows.....
(you'll have to use your imaginations here ;) )
Basic skirt drawing to look like pants JPEG 2017-05-30.jpg
The top part, from the bottom of the zipper, up to the waist line
of the skirt, would look like a pair of dress slacks(or jeans).
From the bottom of the zipper down to the hem line, each pannel
would taper out 2 inches on both sides of the pannel, until you
reach the hem line. The extra 4 inches per pannel would give
a free-flowing hem line and allow for long strides when walking
or running. The circumfrence of the hem would be 16 inches
larger than the waist.
Al, I like it! I think our tastes are similar.

I've experimented with having the taper increase partway down at a certain point, like this. When I tried it, though, that point formed an odd-looking ring once the skirt was assembled. At the time I think I concluded that I'd want the taper to either be the same for the full length of the skirt, or have it change gradually. Or, have a horizontal seam going all the way around at that point to make the ring look more "intentional."

What sort of fabric do you envision for it?
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I'ld envision the type of fabric(wash-n-wear) found in
dress slacks/shorts. Maybe a light-weight twill, as in
cargo shorts. Then, for the rough-n-tumble crowd, a
medium to light weight denim.

Color choices - solid black/brown/grey/navy blue/green
in darker colors. Thus keeping inline with the current
colors for 'pants'. :hide: The colors wouldn't 'stand-out'
that way, drawing attention to the skirt. It would "Blend-in".

That'ld be my $.02 worth ;)

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I tried your approach but the skirt was hanging in a strange and unnatural way. A woman may have a tight fitting part from the waist to the hips and than flare out a little but for a man the private parts will stick out as a battering ram. At the hips you need at least an inch ( maybe 2) room to have the skirt flowing and hiding bumps. Also moving around will be easier.
My favorite form is a circular skirt according to the Skirt Calculator. It creates a cone-like shape with the waist at the top. At hip level the cone should be your hip measurement plus 1 or 2 inches. This defines your minimal cone shape.
A traditional A-line skirt for a man is close to this cone shape. The darts to taper the above hips part are smaller than for a female version and the resulting taper will be almost identical to the taper of the A-line effect.

I hope my explanation is not too complicated.
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A couple of "masculine" skirt ideas. Take a look at Dickie's skirts. They are famous for comfortable work clothes. They have pockets and look and feel nice. They come in khaki and navy.

Go to Google and look for scrub skirts. I have one and it is super comfortable and has slash front pockets with an elastic waist.

I am wearing one that I got at J.C. Penney's. Pockets, elastic waist, light weight fabric, olive drab or black.

I like manly skirts and no one seems to notice them.
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crfriend wrote: In the US, certainly, and likely elsewhere, masculinity has fallen into strong disfavour and men in the modern world are little more than sperm-donors, wallets, and should-be prisoners.

So, with overt masculinity being reviled by (what passes for) modern society, adhering to the notion makes little sense; you're going to catch stick for it anyway,son that us lot are rebelling:
Traditional masculinity may not be politically correct...but women want their men to conform to an image of traditional masculinity.
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Grok wrote:...but women want their men to conform to an image of traditional masculinity.
I could say the same thing about my women. MOH does not dress femininly. Jeans, sweatpants, tennis shoes, tee shirts are the typical. She doesn't like me wearing feminine looking attire, but yet she won't wear it either. She hates panty hose and high heels, but I like them; both seeing them on women and me wearing them. Such a conundrum.
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sl893 wrote:Hey All
I'm new on here and am interested to know.
What makes a skirt masculine/manly v feminine?

Is it the shape (A-line, flared, layered, mermaid, skater, tutu, etc)
Style (Pleated, frilled, etc)
Colours (Plain, bright, flower patterned, neutral patterned, etc)
Or other (belt-looped, pockets, etc)
My thinking is that the primary difference between feminine and masculine attire is the message it sends. Feminine clothing says "come hither" while masculine clothing says "I'm ready for action". If clothing is pretty and sensuous looking; if it makes you want to touch it (including being in it); it's feminine. If clothing looks like something to wear if you want to be prepared for action in some way, it's masculine.

A close second to the "message" would have to be the echoing of visual body differences. Men's bodies have more straight lines and women's have more curves, for example. Likewise women have significant breasts while men have parts that could fit into a codpiece. (Ever notice how a skirt can sort of echo how hair falls from a woman's head?)

These two things are not merely socially constructed, in my view, but we do amplify them socially, sometimes to insane (to my mind) extremes. They can be applied to skirts even though by at least one measure -- the "come hither" measure -- skirts are already somewhat feminine just by being skirts (at least until they are so short they basically become moot). Skirts that are pretty and gathered to make them round, for example, are more feminine than kilts with their sewn straight lines and not much to call "pretty" in them.
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Daryl wrote:My thinking is that the primary difference between feminine and masculine attire is the message it sends. Feminine clothing says "come hither" while masculine clothing says "I'm ready for action". If clothing is pretty and sensuous looking; if it makes you want to touch it (including being in it); it's feminine. If clothing looks like something to wear if you want to be prepared for action in some way, it's masculine.
But what's unmasculine about occasionally wanting to portray a "come hither" look to someone close to you -- or even someone you'd like to attract? If the clothes we garb ourselves in are to be "ready for action" (and one can be perfectly ready for "action" in a skirt) then why don't we just shut the forum down and label the thing, "It's jeans and khakis guys. That's it. Game over."

Recall, also, that it is only in humans where the fancy one is the female; in all other species, the flashy one is the male. Why should we be any different? I know, not every guy wants to be the peacock at the party, but what's wrong with the guys who do? If we are to deny ourselves nice things, what are we going to allow others to deny to us?
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Daryl wrote:why don't we just shut the forum down and label the thing, "It's jeans and khakis guys. That's it. Game over."
I respect your right to dress as flamboyant or as feminine as you like. This website is about wearing skirts. My preference is to wear a skirt and still look masculine. It's not a lack of commitment to the cause, it's a desire to be myself.
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As I stated before, I have no sense for fashion. But I admire people who have those aestetic feelings. I admire that in the same way as I admire people who can make music or paint.
Reading your postings gives me the feeling I'm one of the few on this forum who wear skirts for the sole reason of comfort. OK, a little pushing the envelope and a slight amount of exhibition is involved but it is mainly comfort.
If you take my pants and shorts and you take your magical wand and transform those into skirts, you will see the skirts I'm actually wearing. I might do an experiment now and then into something else but I don't know if I will wear it regularly, inside or outside the house. I made two dresses, one as a test from an old bedsheet an one with most failures removed and the feeling overall was nice but for me it is a bridge too far.
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I even put on the boots I had in the Netherlands, also as an experiment. Certainly not for daily use.
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