Is this the right site for me or not

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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moonshadow wrote:On wigs:
Two words: "Donald Trump". (Of course it might be a squirrel or some other sentient critter that's taken up residence there and is actually calling the shots, but that's really long odds.

On the topic of makeup, think John F. Kennedy versus Richard Nixon in 1960.
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dillon wrote:[... W]hen you look at some of the photos you see that skirts, coupled with fem tops and fem shoes, and a few dresses, some guys are just a wig and lipstick away from full-on crossdressing. That represents a liberalization of this site, in a way, which is not necessarily bad, just an evolutionary change. It certainly would have been criticized and roundly rejected when I first joined.
Indeed. Let's face it: the full formal kilt is here to stay and is under no perceptible threat whatsoever. That leaves everything else.

This puts me, as the "uber-moderator" in a bit of a conundrum as I fight my way through various baggage I've managed to accumulate over my lifetime (and I've been shouted down by my fellow mods on occasion, and which I've learnt from). At the moment, my personal inclination leads me to let stuff go in which the person wearing a rig solidly identifies as male and does so unabashedly. So long as we identify as men, we're OK on the grounds of "Gender Honesty".

Now, to be perfectly honest, I do have foibles and things I don't really understand. Of note here is that I enjoyed a fairly staid upbringing which, no doubt, colours my viewpoint. So, here are a few, offered in the sense of openness and honesty, that I fail to grasp in no particular order:

Bare feet, sandals, and especially "flip-flops". These are fine to my mind when within 50 yards or so of a beach or public shower, but not beyond.
Birkenstocks (see sandals). I swear that the manufacturer held focus-groups on how to design hideous footwear.
"Tank tops" (aka "wife-beaters" here in the US, "singlets", if I'm not mistaken, in the UK). These are pieces of underwear. Even women don't look particularly good in them.
Tattoos and piercings (save for one or two holes in the ears).
Insanely high heels. These can be hazardous to the uninitiated and likely have long-term problems related to them. Unless you're 4-foot-nil, why bother?
Denim. Originally it was a hard-wearing fabric originally descended from sail-cloth; today it's been so dumbed down that one frequently buys it in already trashy condition.
Shoes without proper backs, save for some clog designs. Why risk falling off the thing -- especially if it has a heel -- if you change direction quickly?
Hyper-short skirts, aka "belts". Unless you're out to "advertise your wares", why? I'm no prude, but modesty does have its place.
"Going 'commando'". OK, I can "get this" from a comfort perspective, but there's a whole shed-load of other stuff to be aware of as well. (I'm actually not comfortable with doing so personally. It's a "geometry thing.")

There are a few (and there are likely more), but note that I try extremely hard not to let those interfere with my professional duties here. I, too, am human. (Although I'm sure that there are folks who disbelieve that assertion.)
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IMO, a wig doesn't necessarily have to be feminine, such as this outfit worn by an actor from a senakulo play:
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moonshadow wrote:. . . but I'd encourage a little makeup if someone wanted to give it a go.
Gee, thanks for your permission Moon. :D
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crfriend wrote:
moonshadow wrote:On wigs:
Two words: "Donald Trump". (Of course it might be a squirrel or some other sentient critter that's taken up residence there and is actually calling the shots, but that's really long odds.

On the topic of makeup, think John F. Kennedy versus Richard Nixon in 1960.
If Donald Trump wants to tell someone "you're fired!", he should start with his hairdresser.

Also think of Bob Dole when he debated Bill Clinton; it was remarked that he looked like "America's National Mortician" ...even more ghoulish than Cruz always looks.
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crfriend wrote:Now, to be perfectly honest, I do have foibles and things I don't really understand. Of note here is that I enjoyed a fairly staid upbringing which, no doubt, colours my viewpoint.
Well, everyone has their own taste and style... that's what makes the world a special place! :)
If everyone dressed the same, imagine how boring life would be.
You forgot hoodies... I know you hate hoodies...! :P
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crfriend wrote:"Tank tops" (aka "wife-beaters" here in the US, "singlets", if I'm not mistaken, in the UK). These are pieces of underwear. Even women don't look particularly good in them.
Not even if it has little sparklies? :lol: :wink: :bom:
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So Moon did you lose those feathers from your fan dance just before the picture was taken!! :hide: :rofl: :rofl: :hide:

By the way nice outfit!! :D

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Judah14, I think that the beards help to make the long hair masculine or at least put the seal on it.

BTW I currently have long hair and have had most of my life but at 62 I have had it proved that the ravages of time are taking their toll. Even though I war a pony tail most of the time there is an ever increasing area of pate appearing and the pony tail has got rather thin over the past year or so. So I have made the decision that before I go to Jamaica next week I am going to have it all off although whether I will go completely bald or just a very short stubble I will make on the day. I will naturally get before and after photos. I am actually more nervous of this than I ever am about wearing a skirt outside.
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Sinned wrote:Judah14, I think that the beards help to make the long hair masculine or at least put the seal on it.

BTW I currently have long hair and have had most of my life but at 62 I have had it proved that the ravages of time are taking their toll. Even though I war a pony tail most of the time there is an ever increasing area of pate appearing and the pony tail has got rather thin over the past year or so. So I have made the decision that before I go to Jamaica next week I am going to have it all off although whether I will go completely bald or just a very short stubble I will make on the day. I will naturally get before and after photos. I am actually more nervous of this than I ever am about wearing a skirt outside.
Dennis, there is definitely a stress (hair, physical) and gravity effect on male pattern baldness. You should probably not pull your hair back in a ponytail. Research has shown men who wear topknots and are hereditarily prone to baldness lose more hair faster. http://www.sciencealert.com/can-wearing ... es-go-bald
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My goodness, Carl. I agree with every single point you make!
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Ray wrote:My goodness, Carl. I agree with every single point you make!
I didn't put that out there for anybody to agree or disagree with, but rather as a snapshot of what some parts of the innards of my brain look like. The main point is the fact that I try very hard not to let my personal prejudices interfere with my work. Also, I freely admit that some of my viewpoints are entirely irrational; it's the human mind at work.
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crfriend wrote:
Ray wrote:My goodness, Carl. I agree with every single point you make!
I didn't put that out there for anybody to agree or disagree with, but rather as a snapshot of what some parts of the innards of my brain look like. The main point is the fact that I try very hard not to let my personal prejudices interfere with my work. Also, I freely admit that some of my viewpoints are entirely irrational; it's the human mind at work.
I know what you mean. There are looks that I think are completely ridiculous as well. Although I must say I'm guilty of cladding myself with a few of your pet peeves! :lol: :wink:

As far as my clothing prejudices go? Well.... put it to you this way... one thing that helped me get out there in a skirt was: No matter how ridiculous you think you look... you'll never look as asinine as those who sag their pants below their ass.

And apparently chics really dig the sagging look?? :roll: Whatever... if I weren't already married and I thought I had to dress that way to get a woman... than single I shall remain!
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moonshadow wrote:[...] I must say I'm guilty of cladding myself with a few of your pet peeves! :lol: :wink:
And you can put your mind at ease that I'll not "lash out" on the matter. In point of fact, your look is coming along quite well -- and this is something that each of us would do well to cultivate.
[... A]pparently chics really dig the sagging look?? :roll:
One thing that we get to do is choose our "target audience". Girls who "dig the sagging-arse look" are certainly not within my demographic scope.

Also, having had my proverbial "three strikes" at bat, I'm happy to remain single for the rest of my days now. It's too much work, for too little reward, and altogether too much risk.
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I should mention that while I'm not a fan of clothing item x,y or z, I am certainly not fussed if anyone actually WEARS x,y,z.

I support their right to do so. Also items j,k,l. Okay, not l ;-)
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