Republican Debates ?

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Re: Republican Debates ?

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I just thought I'd toss a quote from a Gerald Celente into the cauldron and, before going further, I'll add Gillard and Abbot to the mix.
"Then there is America. No shortage of great people past and present. How could they let two bit freaks lead and destroy them? Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Obama, Romney? (BTW that's not, strictly speaking a sentence!) To me it's all a two bit freak show. Look around the world: Blair, Cameron, Rajoy, Netenyahu, Merkel, Monti, Berlusconi, Sarkosy, Hollande. Name your country,pick your poison: president, prime minister, chancellor--- all in my eyes two bit freaks,
And they're dangerous. they start wars, kill millions, destroy nations----- -----Infact, not only do the people let them do it, they argue among themselves why their freak is better than the other freak. They will get angry with you if you call their freak a freak. They will actually fight and die to defend their freaks"

While that is a very jaundiced view, it still somehow resonates with me :roll:
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Sarongman wrote:[quoting Gillard and Abbott] "Then there is America. No shortage of great people past and present. How could they let two bit freaks lead and destroy them? Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Obama, Romney?
One needs to go back a bit farther than that -- one needs to plumb the depths of the late 1970s to figure out what caused those greatest of all spasms, Reagan and Thatcher. Those two may as well have been joined at the groin for they were the "Perfect Storm" that brought an otherwise prosperous "Western Civilisation" to its economic knees.

During the Reagan administration the United States went from the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation. Where'd the money go? It's been said that Winston Churchill sacrificed one empire to create two, but Margaret Thatcher obliterated what remained of Great Britain's wealth during the same time that Reagan bankrupted the USA. The Soviet Union "blinked" 15 seconds ahead of the USA, and we're now seeing what that humiliation is visiting upon the world.

So, the proper read -- from a US-centric point of view -- is, "Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Cheney (regent for Bush II), Obama, and TBD" (To Be Decided). It's worth recalling that Clinton, for all his faults, actually managed to deliver a balanced budget. Carter remains questionable, but all the rest (save Clinton) have been unmitigated disasters, at least in the "old school" sense where one covers one's own debts. (The dateline above for assumption of the Presidency is 1976, 1980, 1988, 1992, 2000, 2008, and 2012.) There are altogether too many reasons to list here, at least without my blood-pressure rising to the danger-level of why I hate, nay, abhor, the 1980s.
To me it's all a two bit freak show. Look around the world: Blair, Cameron, Rajoy, Netenyahu, Merkel, Monti, Berlusconi, Sarkosy, Hollande. Name your country,pick your poison: president, prime minister, chancellor--- all in my eyes two bit freaks [...]
We are currently living that age-old "Chinese Curse" -- "may you live in interesting times". It's almost enough to make one pine for the "bad old days" of the "Cold War" where at least the players on both sides were somewhat sane and realised that everybody would lose if things get out of hand. The stuff going on in the Middle East scares the pudding out of me precisely because neither side thinks it has anything to lose. The current problems in the Eurozone bother me because that was my last great hope for humanity (having written the US of A off as a neo-feudal "society", if not already there then rapidly becoming so).

Forward-thinkers have much to fear. Very much indeed. I think I'll go sailing again at the earliest opportunity -- whilst I still have time.
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Re: Republican Debates ?

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Lets not get into the politics as rule #2 requires on this site, I see that some have a twisted perspective of History, and it would be disrespectful for any of us other members to attempt to educate, or clarify historical events, there must be political forums where the indroctronated Idiots would welcome any of the propaganda U might have ingested and attempt to share from whatever side You are on, (Honestly, They are playing Us against Eachother,and Our Country has never been so divided) "Republican Debates" needs to be deleted from this site. It gives Some of us a sour taste, and we might not want to pull up a chair to get Backwards perspective and Disrespect shoved into internal cavities.
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