Skirt Cafe is an on-line community dedicated to exploring, promoting and advocating skirts and kilts as a fashion choice for men, formerly known as men in skirts. We do this in the context of men's fashion freedom --- an expansion of choices beyond those commonly available for men to include kilts, skirts and other garments. We recognize a diversity of styles our members feel comfortable wearing, and do not exclude any potential choices. Continuing dialog on gender is encouraged in the context of fashion freedom for men. See here for more details.
straightfairy wrote:... he couldn't have missed it, but made no comment.
The builder ... definitely saw it! and still no comment.
I think that's a positive day!
Can't help disagreeing, SF. I find it much more encouraging when people do talk about my skirts. Keeping silent, or looking the other way betrays their embarassment, I think, and there's no opportunity to put skirt-wearing forward as a positive choice and a symbol of freedom.
Like you, however, and like most of the members here, the "no comment" seems to be the commonest result.
Today, I heard "Regarde l'Ecossais" somewhere behind me, some laughs, and even -- from some silly five-year-olds -- "Huh! A woman in a skirt" (not sure what to make of that!), but no face-to-face comments.
skirtyscot wrote:Sounds great, Tassierob. Do you by any chance work in the public sector? And do you deal with people who are in a position to be able to take their business away from your employer (or steer clear of them in the first place)? The reference to trade shows suggests the first answer might be "no" but I thought I'd ask anyway.
No not in the public sector.
It's a private enterprise and we have opposition so yes my clients do have a choice. Maybe some of them see it as a sales gimick like a funny hat but it does work.
And it works well enough that clients stop and say hello on the weekend if our paths cross
If you haven't worn a skirt you haven't found freedom!
So I wore my 19 inch acrylikilt to the LPGA tournament here in Phoenix, Arizona. Nothing was said to me the whole time that i was there. It was in the mid 80's as far as temperature goes. And even the short acyrlikilt was way too hot for this day. Definitely need something lighter in material for this weather.
straightfairy wrote:... he couldn't have missed it, but made no comment.
The builder ... definitely saw it! and still no comment.
I think that's a positive day!
Can't help disagreeing, SF. I find it much more encouraging when people do talk about my skirts. Keeping silent, or looking the other way betrays their embarassment, I think, and there's no opportunity to put skirt-wearing forward as a positive choice and a symbol of freedom.
Like you, however, and like most of the members here, the "no comment" seems to be the commonest result.
Today, I heard "Regarde l'Ecossais" somewhere behind me, some laughs, and even -- from some silly five-year-olds -- "Huh! A woman in a skirt" (not sure what to make of that!), but no face-to-face comments.
Martin
Update:
Builder came round to do the work he'd quoted for and when I noticed him looking, I simply said that the skirt was for comfort and he was fine with it.
Also went to a friend's place with a bunch of mates in one (but they have seen me skirted a few times) and the only joke was a mate checking I had underwear on...
straightfairy wrote:...the only joke was a mate checking I had underwear on...
That is one of the "jokes" I tend to slap down with a quiet reminder that if they were to do that to a female they would run a real risk of finding themselves on the sexual offenders register. Given that our laws do not discriminate between genders, they ought to think a little harder before behaving like that.
Yeah, I know, I'm an old stick-in-the-mud, but there are some behaviours that should not be tolerated and, for me at least, this is one of them.
Have fun,
Ian.
Do not argue with idiots; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Cogito ergo sum - Descartes
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
skirtyscot wrote:Sounds great, Tassierob. Do you by any chance work in the public sector? And do you deal with people who are in a position to be able to take their business away from your employer (or steer clear of them in the first place)? The reference to trade shows suggests the first answer might be "no" but I thought I'd ask anyway.
No not in the public sector.
It's a private enterprise and we have opposition so yes my clients do have a choice. Maybe some of them see it as a sales gimick like a funny hat but it does work.
And it works well enough that clients stop and say hello on the weekend if our paths cross
Excellent! 10/10 for you. Being remembered must be good, work-wise. and the fact that people stop and talk to you out of work means they have not been put off, i.e. you're not being remembered in a bad way.
straightfairy wrote:... he couldn't have missed it, but made no comment.
The builder ... definitely saw it! and still no comment.
I think that's a positive day!
Can't help disagreeing, SF. I find it much more encouraging when people do talk about my skirts. Keeping silent, or looking the other way betrays their embarassment, I think, and there's no opportunity to put skirt-wearing forward as a positive choice and a symbol of freedom.
Like you, however, and like most of the members here, the "no comment" seems to be the commonest result.
You're right, Martin. So far nobody outside my family has asked about my skirts. (And the family are none too supportive!) It would be nice if, when I was out and about, someone stopped me to ask. But mostly I get an odd look or people pretend I'm just not there at all. Even in the Co-Op, where the staff would be more surprised to see me in trousers these days, nobody has mentioned my skirts.
On Sunday I woke up early and the sun was shining, so when I went to buy a paper I decided to turn it into a 5 mile walk down the glen and along the seafront. It was a lovely fresh morning with a wee bit of frost on the ground, so I wore a knee-length denim skirt and thick black tights. Of course I passed quite a few folk in the hour and a half I was out, and although nobody commented on my attire, I was pleasantly surprised at how many people said "Hello", rather than just giving me a disbelieving stare. Must have been the weather!
Just getting ready for the day here. I will be wearing short white cotton skirt and my bright red Guayabera shirt to school today. Today I don't teach - I am in student mode. It is lovely and warm so I will wear my sandals and have painted my toenails to match the shirt.
Tomorrow I have to fly to represent my University at a meeting with naval "brass" hosted by the University of Michigan, and I plan to wear my knee length black "office" skirt for that event. My Naval sponsor loves it when I wear a skirt to official meetings.
On St. Patrick's Day, I played a gig at a local coffeehouse in downtown Mountain View [CA] with my band and wished I had a green tartan kilt. I wore my usual gig outfit... my black Utilikilt. Before the gig, a good friend of mine and I had dinner and then walked around town for a bit before the gig. We passed this guy who was wearing a green tartan kilt and black tights. Looked very nice. We acknowledged each other by smiling and saying, "Nice kilt!" His kilt could've been something other than cotton because the pleats hung very well. I wanted to know where he bought his from but he was on a cellphone call and I didn't want to interrupt him. Just thought I'd pass on the sighting...
--Rick, who's thinking about getting another kilt!
Nice to hear about another kilter out and about .....
You could play a bit of detective - - -
Did you recognize the tartan pattern ?
Did it have the 3 straps/buckles or 2 waist fastening ?
If no straps (velcro waist closing) could be a SportKilt or economy Stillwater.
He had black tights on so presume no kilt sox with matching tartan flashes.
Were the pleats narrowly spaced or wide like maybe 2 inches - inexpensive kilts have wide spacing ?
You say the pleats hung very well could be acrylic or wool.
What about the length - standard traditional at knees or other ?
Wearing a kilt belt with or without sporran ?
Appears that he was causally kilted just as you were.
Tis a shame that you did not have the opportunity for an introduction and perhaps find out if he was
a member of a kilt (skirt) forum.
"A-Kilted-Observation"
rma
"YES SKIRTING MATTERS"!
"Kilt-On" -or- as the case may be "Skirt-On" !
WHY ?
Isn't wearing a kilt enough?
Well a skirt will do in a pinch!
Make mine short and don't you dare think of pinching there !
ChrisM wrote:Tomorrow I have to fly to represent my University at a meeting with naval "brass" hosted by the University of Michigan, and I plan to wear my knee length black "office" skirt for that event. My Naval sponsor loves it when I wear a skirt to official meetings.
That is just too wonderful for words! Bravo!
Have you any new daring designs that can be shared?
Retrocomputing -- It's not just a job, it's an adventure!
Nice to hear about another kilter out and about .....
You could play a bit of detective - - -
Did you recognize the tartan pattern ?
Did it have the 3 straps/buckles or 2 waist fastening ?
If no straps (velcro waist closing) could be a SportKilt or economy Stillwater.
He had black tights on so presume no kilt sox with matching tartan flashes.
Were the pleats narrowly spaced or wide like maybe 2 inches - inexpensive kilts have wide spacing ?
You say the pleats hung very well could be acrylic or wool.
What about the length - standard traditional at knees or other ?
Wearing a kilt belt with or without sporran ?
Appears that he was causally kilted just as you were.
Tis a shame that you did not have the opportunity for an introduction and perhaps find out if he was
a member of a kilt (skirt) forum.
"A-Kilted-Observation"
rma
Just at a quick glance, I didn't notice any buckles he might have had. The pleats were narrow and hung very nice. The black tights [opaque] really looked good. I wear sheer hose/tights on occasion myself. One thing that, in my opinion, didn't look good, were the boots he was wearing... Ugg boots that came up about 6"-8" below his knees. I don't mind the look of Ugg boots but definitely not with a kilt! I was hoping that he'd pass by the coffeeshop, see me on stage, and pop in for a bit. But he never did. Oh well... probably had other things on his mind... like getting a little "toasted" at the bar... Molly Magee's!
I been out an about in kilts several times recently. On Monday I visited some gardens a few miles away on what was quite an unseasonably warm day here. I wore my green cotton drill kilt from Tartanista, which was comfortable enough. Most people didn't seem to notice it, and I never felt out of place.
As usual and despite the warm weather, most women there aside from a couple of older ones, stuck with trousers on what seemed an ideal day to go out in a summer skirt or dress.
Women here are still mostly in trousers, too.
Yesterday a woman from Africa asked why I was wearing a skirt. My retort "Why are you wearing trousers?" was enough to strike her dumb.
I wonder of the tradition of the uniforms imposed by mission schools in Africa (skirts for girls, shorts for boys) is the reason why a man in a skirt is so surprising to them. Without the evangelists of every flavour, they probably would never have thought of bifurcated garments!
Went out to a LGBT meeting at a coffee shop this evening. Walked across town in leggings (suprisingly warm/cool enough for this time of night) & a short tiered skirt earlier (I think the pattern is called ditsy, these days).
Although I'm not gay I do find that going to this coffee shop quite good & it adds to my confidence walking across town when skirted. I know there may be people here at SC whose cup of tea this isn't, but it does take all sorts & there are lots of sorts there, almost all trousered.
Boo.
I was hoping that he'd pass by the coffeeshop, see me on stage, and pop in for a bit. But he never did. Oh well... probably had other things on his mind... like getting a little "toasted" at the bar... Molly Magee's!