Why the Automatic Kilt/Scot Association?

skirttron · Post by **skirttron** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:25 pm

Why do many people assume that, even if you wear a non-traditional kilt, you must be Scottish? After all, no one assumes you are Indian if you eat a curry.

binx · Post by **binx** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:42 pm

Duh, nearly all will ask if you're Scottish, although many times I'm asked if I'm Irish. After all, just how often do you encounter a man in a skirt, let alone one in a kilt? I wore my cut-off denim Old Navy skirt to a hair stylist, and was asked about the "kilt", and if there was some Scottish event going on nearby.

binx

Since1982 · Post by **Since1982** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:59 pm

At least they ask if we're Scottish and not if we're Scotch....I got tired long ago of explaining to people that I definitely was not a bottle of BOOZE!!

Kilted Musician · Post by **Kilted Musician** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:43 pm

Hi Skip,

Since1982 wrote:At least they ask if we're Scottish and not if we're Scotch....I got tired long ago of explaining to people that I definitely was not a bottle of BOOZE!!

You should have said, "Yeah, I'm Scotch... Scotch tape!"

[a good attempt at a bad joke!]

--Rick

Post by **Milfmog** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:46 am

When I was asked if I was Scotch, I replied that I was not but had some similarities...

I get better as I get older
I get more expensive as time goes by
and I have mellowed as I age (actually that was a lie

)

Have fun,

Ian.

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:21 pm

I don't know, but I'm sure tired of it...

binx · Post by **binx** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:05 am

Stop wearing kilts. They are great conversation starters IMO. I went into work kilted today, now that it's warming up outside, and I was asked by a nice-looking blond that question. Then at a restaurant for dinner this evening, another nice blond asked about bagpipes. Told her about the upcoming Tartan Day festivities. It also gives you an opportunity to talk about "...exploring, promoting and advocating...kilts as a [full-time] fashion choice for men." That's what we're all about, right?

binx

skirttron · Post by **skirttron** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:48 pm

binx wrote:Stop wearing kilts.

binx

Not likely at all!
Yeah, I'm a bit of an exhibitionist too so I do not mind attracting attention - but we have to fix the preconceptions out there. Only being out kilted and skirted amongst the throng with as little traditional baggage as possible will do it. Probably if other modern kilts start being completely accepted I'll wear a bright red one.

binx · Post by **binx** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:56 pm

How do you propose fixing the "problem" if wearing a tartan? I know, wear a shirt with your kilt that says "I'm not Scottish/Irish/Welsh, so don't even ask!" That should do it...

binx

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:41 am

binx wrote:How do you propose fixing the "problem" if wearing a tartan? I know, wear a shirt with your kilt that says "I'm not Scottish/Irish/Welsh, so don't even ask!" That should do it...

binx

Scottish/Irish/Welsh????????????? I'm confused! Wouldn't it be easier to say "British"? There are more "English" folk wear Kilts than the Irish or Welsh, surely? I've yet to see a 'Welsh' Kilt - I thought they were a 21st Century 'invention'. Don't get me wrong - it's a major step forward, and very welcome, too! Apart from the odd NI pipe band, I've not seen a Kilt worn in Ireland, other than by a Scot (at an International match), either. It cannot be a Celtic connection, after Ireland, England has (apparently) the next highest proportion of 'native' celts.....................

Big and Bashful · Post by **Big and Bashful** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:40 pm

What are the differences between a scottish kilt, an irish kilt and a cornish kilt?
I have heard from someone who used to lead a scottish sprout troop (the boy-sprouts spent a lot of uniform time kiltified) that it wasn't unkown for sprouts to swap kilts with others, hence one of his sprouts had swapped his scottish tartan one for a cornish kilt. All I remember was that the cornish kilt was ( i think) orange, and somehow the cut of the cloth was different. I have trawled the net looking for info on kilt variations but found nothing.

(For sprout, read scout just in case anyone was left in doubt)

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:03 pm

My only memories of Cornish Kilts date back to the 70s. Those I saw then were 'all black' (with black socks, etc.). Pre-dating fashion-conscious "Goths" somewhat! Maybe that's what inspired them!

cessna152towser · Post by **cessna152towser** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:09 am

My first non-tartan kilt was my all black 8 yard heavyweight wool kilt, as seen in my avatar, and I have quite often been told by people that the black denotes a Cornish kilt.
On the other hand my lightweight polycotton black kilt for casual wear tends to be considered goth.
My adult daughter from my previous marriage is a goth and approves of her dad wearing black kilts.
I wore my olive grey Freedom Cargo Kilt when I went to London last week and not one person asked me if I was Scottish. In fact nobody commented on the kilt at all.

binx · Post by **binx** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:25 am

merlin wrote:Scottish/Irish/Welsh????????????? I'm confused! Wouldn't it be easier to say "British"? There are more "English" folk wear Kilts than the Irish or Welsh, surely?

I have consistently been asked if I was Irish or Scottish...never have heard British. Well, not Welsh either...but I have heard that they wore cilts.

binx

Departed Member · Post by **Departed Member** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:56 am

binx wrote:I have consistently been asked if I was Irish or Scottish...never have heard British. Well, not Welsh either...but I have heard that they wore cilts. binx

Is that the perception in the USA? Far from reality, I'm afraid! Apart from pipe band's (in Northern Ireland) 'single colour' Kilts (& visiting Scots to International matches in both countries), I never saw a single ''casual' Kilt in either Eire, or the North, during my once frequent visits. :shake: As for Welsh 'cilts', they are only a 'cilt' because the Welsh language is 5 letters short of an alphabet, one of them being "K"!!!!!!! Unless one uses the term in a Welsh sentence, then 'cilt' is not strictly correct! (So I'm told - my wife's half Welsh & it's not wise to argue!). I'm not sure when the first one (Kilt/'cilt') appeared (last 6/7 years?), but "Welsh" tartan registrations have 'snowballed' recently - which is fabulous, of course! But, like snowballs, they are still an exceeding rare sight. Again (apart from me!), I've only seen visiting Scots travelling to Cardiff/Dublin wearing Kilts in Wales - so far!

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Why the Automatic Kilt/Scot Association?

Why the Automatic Kilt/Scot Association?

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Easy solution

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The solution?

Maybe not in London...that's a cosmopolitan city