One guy's comments!

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http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/118 ... dwide_hit/
Read the comments below, and one individual in particular who slightly disapproves of the whole thing, to put it mildly.

I'd have killed to wear what the girls were wearing at school. Never understood why I couldn't, and still don't.
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howardfh wrote:...one individual in particular who slightly disapproves of the whole thing, to put it mildly.
That poster did a pretty good job of making a fool of himself and seems to have received near-universal condemnation from the others who commented.

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What pleasure do these people get from hurling written insults at total strangers?
To comment on a news item is one thing, but to go on commenting on other comments without adding anything new is obviously a complete waste of time (based on what I have just read, following howardfh's link).
I'm glad skirt wearers have more sense.
I wonder too what makes a person bother to add empty words to his own comments, showing not the slightest understanding of the original article nor any readiness to accommodate different opinions.
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The comment section in that article is a shining example of how much grief and spleen an ignoramus with access to technology can spew. The classic line dating back to the USENET days applies: :troll:

I've heard it mentioned that 90+% of what's on the Internet is rubbish and that there is great concern in some circles that it's not being formally archived and will one day be lost forever. In many, if not most, cases I would be inclined to say, "So what." From what I've read on the 'Net over the years, the loss of the "comments" section to published articles would be a good place to start losing stuff -- a very good place to start.
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Great article - Thanks for posting it :D The majority of the
comments are very supportive of the child and the event.

Cudos to the school for making this event possible :D

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You would have thought that poster would have go out as soon as he realised the tide wasn't so much against him, but had carted him out into deep mid-ocean!
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howardfh wrote:You would have thought that poster would have go out as soon as he realised the tide wasn't so much against him, but had carted him out into deep mid-ocean!
That's part of the joy of it -- they don't get it.

The interesting thing, however, is how positive the article was overall. That was heartening. The only sad thing is that it took a "special day" for some expression to actually manifest. When self-expression is not just tolerated but embraced each and every day is when I'll rejoice.
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The irony from this end is I actually don't like dresses, think they look odd on women, never mind men, and personally would never wear one, not even for Fancy Dress, I'm very much a skirt's man (please don't ask whet the difference is when it's basically the same thing!!) but I wouldn't even think of criticising anyone who did.

Wonder how many on here prefer a dress/robe (call it what you like) over a skirt, either looking at one or wearing one?
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howardfh wrote:Wonder how many on here prefer a dress/robe (call it what you like) over a skirt, either looking at one or wearing one?
Writing from a personal perspective, some robe styles - mainly from the medieval period -- are quite compelling in their appearance, and varying types were worn by both men and women. You're likely going to waste time looking for illustrations on the 'Net, so head to a library and find a few books on clothing history.

What evolved into the modern "dress" -- which really is strictly speaking a women's garment now (as they tend to be tailored for bodies that guys don't have -- no longer works well on guys, and since the look is so rare tends to jar the senses. At issue is what we're used to -- and what we're not used to can disturb us (not that this is a bad thing, mind, as it makes us think). Aside from clergy, men haven't worn robe- or dress- line garments in public for hundreds of years. At least with skirts we have the kilt, the sarong, and several others to draw on. For dresses/robes we have precisely nothing unless we look to the clergy.

On women, I like the way a nicely-cut dress looks, and I'm a sucker for proper formal gowns (not the sort of thing one sees on celebutards on the red carpet as those leave nothing to the imagination); however, those are also a dead form in day-to-day life.

As far as a "dress" for guys goes, we could always pull on the tunic idea (which went out of vogue a couple of hundred years ago) or possibly the adaptation of a shirt-dress with the bodice styles like a man's shirt but with an attached skirt and, possibly, a belt or sash at the waist.
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I've now added my own comment to that article!
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I have not been a dress man either but .... .... recently I have started wearing a short T-shirt dress in yellow that becoming a favourite. It's, I suppose, a tunic really as the hem comes to about mid-thigh and it's not something I would willingly wear outside on its own, with tights or not. I wear it around the house and the beautiful thing is that MOH can't say a thing because:
a) she gave me it,
b) I just say it's a long T-shirt,
c) I'm not wearing a skirt! :D

I don't think that I would go much beyond this or at a push a shirt dress as these are probably the only ones that could suit my male figure. I'm really enjoying this at the moment. Maybe after this MOH would consider a skirt a bit more normal.

BTW I set MOH the task ( which as far as I know she hasn't done yet ) of producing a list of ten advantages/reasons for a man to wear a skirt. The idea is to get her to look at it from my POV and break into her bigoted view and see that there is no reason why not. I don't know if anyone else who's having difficulty with their OH's acceptance wants to try this and report back if successful. I'll let you know what happens.
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About the comments to the article;

The "ONE" person who continually leaves detrimental comments, to me,
is impersonating the southbound side of a northbound horse :!:

Nuff said :D

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crfriend wrote:
howardfh wrote:Wonder how many on here prefer a dress/robe (call it what you like) over a skirt, either looking at one or wearing one?
What evolved into the modern "dress" -- which really is strictly speaking a women's garment now (as they tend to be tailored for bodies that guys don't have -- no longer works well on guys,
i like dresses and although i like skirts too i do tend to prefer dresses because they hang from the shoulders and thus create no restriction around the waist area, as a guy i obviously don't have the hips (like women have) to hold up skirts too well and thus have to rely on either belts or elasticated waists on skirts, a dress just flows nicely from the shoulders.

to some extent crfriend is correct about dresses being tailored for womens bodies and thus don't work well on guys, this however is not entirely correct as there are many dresses that also work well on men it just depends upon the style and design of the dress, the main problem with dresses is that they tend to have a high waist that are fine for women but useless on a guy but drop waists can work fine on guys depending upon the guys build .... of course there are long straight / flowy dresses that have no waist at all which work great for both men and women
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To go back to the event that gave rise to the article.

Pupils were asked to disguise themselves a character of fiction.
What is disguise? It's trying to look as different from your usual self as possible.
The boy did what he was asked to do.
The article and some of the comments had little to do with the original idea, and show only just how obsessed humans can be with sex or gender. Books and disguises completely overlooked; instead they got fixated on transgression of societal norms, even though carnaval time is just that -- the breaking of rules and a bit of fun.

This is a sick society.

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The phrase "when you're deep in a hole stop digging" comes to mind. I think he did right - he used a book to prompt the disguise. How many young males don female skirts, stockings, wigs and so on on stag nights? This is no different.

As part of the Red Nose carnival on Friday it has been suggested that we wear nightwear to work to raise funds. I intend to go in a onesie of which I have two - a white or a tiger stripe but the white one might pick up too much of the general grime in a large store. MOH has a bright pink one that I have my eye on wearing if I can swing it around to HER suggesting that I wear it rather than it be my suggestion. There again maybe not.
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