If MUGs became more accepted, how would things change?

[Raakone]

Not sure why, but wondering.....suppose, let's say, the last few decades turned out differently than they actually did, and everyday men's unbifurcated garments were more acceptable in the "Western" world? (yes, I know, Scotland, and now other Celtic nations, have kilts, but many of them are reserved for formal occasions) How would things change?

A few possibilities....
a) That worn out expression about who wears the PANTS in the house would go the way of the steam locomotive and the wooden escalator
b) speaking of escalators....especially if skirts became more accepted as daily wear by both sexes....chances are they'd install more of those deflector brushes more quickly....also especially if something like the long Arab robes, or polynesian sarongs became the fashion....well, in India they call deflector brushes "sari guards." Incidently they also guard against dangling headphones getting caught, but that's besides the point
c) We may need to find new symbols for restrooms....eventually
d) Unfortunately, someone, probably on the West Coast, would end up popularizing the "sagging skirt" look!
e) Men would actually have more CHOICE on how to dress....
f) Or maybe we might just have a BIT more...but you'd get "what, knee length kilts? That's so last year man! And cargo skirts are last decade. The sarong's the thing now, but it's gotta be a dark color!"
g) "skirt guards" and "chain guards" may be standard on most bicycles and motorcycles (I read that in India, "sari guards" are FEDERALLY REQUIRED for motorscooters and motorcycles)

So, what do you all think?

[CJFMix]

If there's one thing we can agree on ...
It sure would be way better than , those baggy shorts that the teens are wearing below their bum line !!! Eh eh ...

The one thing that may change , is , a lot of dudes are wearing skirts behind closed doors ...
It may just bring those dudes enough confidence to step out ...

[Grok]

a) That worn out expression about who wears the PANTS in the house would go the way of the steam locomotive and the wooden escalator

Already obsolete.

c) We may need to find new symbols for restrooms....eventually

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[Since1982]

Unfortunately, in America, I don't think things would be much different IF MUGs had become more accepted in other countries. The reasons in my eyes. 1. The "puritanical" background of the people and their ancestors living here for the last 500 years. Very church oriented, Very antogonistic against anyone NOT the same as them, a horse culture, (transportation by horse, ie: split legged garments) all the way to the various wars of the last 300 years with pants being the primary garment for men's legs and our ability to cover the globe and take OUR choices to and force to use our looks and ways along with the English Empire doing pretty much the same thing in Europe. Only the onset of automobiles have the known world began to move away from the "horse culture" in around the 1960's coupled with the long hair and laid back music of the "so called" Hippie Days. Which has gotten us to where we are now. Thank Goodness.

[Ray]

Skip - minor correction; it's the British Empire, not the English Empire. England has never had an empire.

Secondly, Britain had little to no influence in Europe. Quite the opposite; it was in far flung places like India, Australia, Africa and North America that the Uk built up its empire.

Ray

[Sylvain]

1. The "puritanical" background of the people and their ancestors living here for the last 500 years.

You meant 400 years, I think...

[RichardA]

As long as man has a hole in his bottom skirts will never be accepted in the western world, tolerated yes, but never accepted, this could only change if “high profile men” started to wear them and I can't see that happening over night

[N0HEQ]

For me nothing would really change since I already have worn dresses or shirts & skirts for several years. Whether anyone else emulates my style is totally irrelevant to me. A man who wears pants like women currently do because he is sexually insecure is not much of a man so why should I be concerned with his opinions? I don't eat cereal for breakfast just because everyone else does either.

[Since1982]

RichardA said: As long as man has a hole in his bottom, skirts will never be accepted in the western world.

Richard, exactly which "hole" are you referring to that men have and women don't have?? This of course would have to be some "hole" that men in the "Eastern" world do not have also, since MUG style garments are very very commonly worn east of the Mediterranean and Red Seas and all of Polynesia. They are having a Sports Awards Show today in Dubai and lots of the millionaires who come from all over the world have never worn pants as a primary garment. You mean to say men in India, the Entire Arab world and most of Africa have a special hole "WE" don't have?? I think you need another look in an Anatomy and Medical Encyclopedia.

[Grok]

I have speculated about measures that would coax the average male out of trousers.

But what would be the time scale? Women have largely switched over to trousers during the last few decades...but fashion bloomers (somewhat similar to skorts) appeared back in the 1850s. Change on a generational time scale - one mechanism for this may be the death of old people with outdated ideas.

A more immediate goal would be to get acceptance of a certain group of eccentrics.

[Since1982]

No Sylvain, I didn't mean 400 years, I was actually off on the years, the first "white men" to come to America came in the 800-900's in the form of Vikings from what is now known as Scandanavia, ie: Norway, Finland, Sweden, etc. The first explorers to cross the (now known as) Atlantic Ocean were Vikings in Long Ships bent on discovery and capturing slaves to be. Where they landed was then known as Vineland and later Greenland which it is still named. Their discovery of magnetic chunks of rock from what used to be known as "shooting stars" made them the first explorers to be able to make way in Fog or complete darkness. This skill as voyagers and the skills as shipbuilders that created the shallow draft "Dragon Ships" made them far superior to most ships of the day. Their abilities as warriors with a group of warrior Gods to worship made them nearly invulnerable in battle.

[Sylvain]

ars, the first "white men" to come to America came in the 800-900's in the form of Vikings from what is now known as Scandanavia, ie: Norway, Finland, Sweden, etc. The first explorers to cross the (now known as) Atlantic Ocean were Vikings in Long Ships bent on discovery and capturing slaves to be.

But they weren't Puritans...

[Since1982]

Ok Sylvain, whatever....

[ethelthefrog]

one mechanism for this may be the death of old people with outdated ideas.

Sounds like a fun project...



Paul

[Since1982]

Secondly, Britain had little to no influence in Europe. Quite the opposite; it was in far flung places like India, Australia, Africa and North America that the Uk built up its empire.

Isn't France in Europe?? Am I imagining that there were more than a few wars between England and France over the last 700 years??