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So what do you wear in the winter?
I'm so bundled up even inside that my fashion sense right now is how many more clothes I can put on to keep warm. Sweat pants and hooded sweat shirts, with the hoods pulled up, indoors. I don't even want to think about going out.
But what about you braver and healthier souls?
What do you wear now?
Dennis A. Lederle
oops! Maybe I should exclude the people that live in sunshine all year, you lucky ducks.
Or the people that are down south because this is the start of your summer.
Only want to know about the winter clothes!
usual rig, jeans, t-shirt and a fleece, or sometimes a longer coat. Hat if rain/snowing as well.
Work: short sleeved shirt, trousers, fleece or longer coat, hat as before.
Jeans get switched for long denim skirt when I feel like it.
Apart from socks and footwear, that's it. It helps that most of the time I am wearing a house, an office or a Jeep as well. If I'm outside I am doing some sort of exercise, even if it is just walking somewhere.
I am the God of Hellfire! and I bring you truffles!
I'm about the same as Big and Bashful, t-shirt or shirt, pants or jeans usually (except in the apartment), jacket, sometimes hat, and of course shoes and socks. Nothing really special. If I get my kilt and if it turns into one of those warm winter days of 50+ temperature, then I might wear the kilt.
That actually soundsl like a good idea, but I'm afraid it would cost a pretty penny, and are they hard to find? I've seen lots of t-shirt dresses for sale, but those wouldn't be as warm obviously. Sorry, just thinking out loud more or less.
Mugs-n-such wrote:That actually soundsl like a good idea, but I'm afraid it would cost a pretty penny, and are they hard to find? I've seen lots of t-shirt dresses for sale, but those wouldn't be as warm obviously. Sorry, just thinking out loud more or less.
Good thoughts, I will second them! I presume a sweater dress is like a sweater, but longer? with a belt or something?
I am the God of Hellfire! and I bring you truffles!
We have some heavy cotton knit skirts that work well in cold weather. Add tights, knee socks andkle socks and boots and the bottom half is pretty toasty. Add t-shirt, sweater and hoodie, hat and gloves and still pretty toasty. Oh and if it is really slip slidey, don't forget the Yak-Traks or heaven forbid, the crampons
Sapphire
Moderation is for monks. To enjoy life, take big bites.
-------Lazarus Long
Good thoughts, I will second them! I presume a sweater dress is like a sweater, but longer? with a belt or something?
Yes, I think so, with or without the belt.
Oh and if it is really slip slidey, don't forget the Yak-Traks or heaven forbid, the crampons
Please forgive my ignorance, Sapphire, but what are Yak-Traks or crampons? I assume that's some kind of footwear? As you can tell, I don't keep up with fashion...at all.
Mugs-n-such wrote:That actually soundsl like a good idea, but I'm afraid it would cost a pretty penny, and are they hard to find? I've seen lots of t-shirt dresses for sale, but those wouldn't be as warm obviously. Sorry, just thinking out loud more or less.
Not when I have been rummaging through boxes of clothes my ex-wife left me. My current wife has many pairs of pantyhose she bought and she does not wear them. They fit me. (Note: Pantyhose are not unseen underwear so I am not violating the rules of this forum. The primary purpose of them is not for underwear.)
Mugs-n-such wrote:That actually soundsl like a good idea, but I'm afraid it would cost a pretty penny, and are they hard to find? I've seen lots of t-shirt dresses for sale, but those wouldn't be as warm obviously. Sorry, just thinking out loud more or less.
Not when I have been rummaging through boxes of clothes my ex-wife left me. My current wife has many pairs of tights she bought and she does not wear them. They fit me. (Note: tights are not unseen underwear so I am not violating the rules of this forum. The primary purpose of them is not for underwear.)
I did not use the word "tights" when I wrote the post above. I really resent the substitution of using the word "tights" in place of P A N T Y H O S E.
JohnH wrote:Not when I have been rummaging through boxes of clothes my ex-wife left me. My current wife has many pairs of tights she bought and she does not wear them. They fit me. (Note: tights are not unseen underwear so I am not violating the rules of this forum. The primary purpose of them is not for underwear.)
I did not use the word "tights" when I wrote the post above. I really resent the substitution of using the word "tights" in place of P A N T Y H O S E.
[Mod hat on]
In On Language I attempted to set forth the importance of how we use words and what the sometimes-implied meaning of those words is and what assorted baggage the words may carry with them. If you truly desire to shout from the rooftops that you wear women's underwear then nobody can stop you; however, I will assert that crowing about it will not assist getting the general public in shifting its perceptions of guys in skirts as "deviants". There's a very fine line between, "I'm wearing a skirt because I find it comfortable and it allows me to be more expressive in my style than trousers do." and "I'M WEARING WOMEN'S UNDERWEAR!"
[Mod hat off]
The astute will note that the auto-substitution of "tights" for "pnatyhose" also munged the post I linked to above. It's be nice if there was proper contextual and lexical logic to the filters, but there just isn't. The astute with a sense of humour will also be laughing at the substitution that mangled my own post.
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In On Language I attempted to set forth the importance of how we use words and what the sometimes-implied meaning of those words is and what assorted baggage the words may carry with them. If you truly desire to shout from the rooftops that you wear women's underwear then nobody can stop you; however, I will assert that crowing about it will not assist getting the general public in shifting its perceptions of guys in skirts as "deviants". There's a very fine line between, "I'm wearing a skirt because I find it comfortable and it allows me to be more expressive in my style than trousers do." and "I'M WEARING WOMEN'S UNDERWEAR!"
[Mod hat off]
The astute will note that the auto-substitution of "tights" for "pnatyhose" also munged the post I linked to above. It's be nice if there was proper contextual and lexical logic to the filters, but there just isn't. The astute with a sense of humour will also be laughing at the substitution that mangled my own post.
Most people in the United States do not think of p a n t y h o s e as underwear. I spaced out the letters so that the auto-substitution would not occur. At any rate it is a garment that is shown to the public. That autosubstitution really needs to go. I wear men's briefs under that garment. Football players, male outdoorsmen, and male construction workers wear that garment.
P A N T Y H O S E is an under-garment worn by women.
This name, P. H., is synonymous with women.
I'm sorry that you feel upset, but since you've 'broken' the house rules
with your continued use of gender specific nomenclature I can only say Too Bad, So Sad You have been asked not to use such wording
in your posts on numerous occasions. I've bitten my tongue many times
after reading some of your posts and have not responded to them.
Yes, I'm saying this - to you - in public. I'm not going to send you a PM
as too many have already been sent
Please abide by the house rules.
If necessary we will have Big George, the Cafe' Bouncer,
escort you from the premises.
*Mod Hat Off*
Uncle Al
(I hope the situation does not warrant us doing that as Big George
is on vacation and doesn't want to come home early.)
Kilted Organist/Musician
Grand Musician of the Grand Lodge, I.O.O.F. of Texas 2008-2025
When asked 'Why the Kilt?'
I respond-The why is F.T.H.O.I. (For The H--- Of It)
In general the mods and admins do a great job on this forum and I applaud them. But for once I really think their decisions on the way we name and describe the waist-length, close-fitting, stretchy, separate-leg tube-like garments has gone too far. Sorry, Carl and Al et al., but I think you've become paranoid on this topic and have got it wrong this time.
It has already been established that discussion of the above mentioned garments on this forum is legitimate, since they are visible (unless one is wearing ankle length skirts and boots) and therefore are not underwear (intended not to be seen).
To ban the use of the word "pan ty hoze" (to disguise the spelling) and have it automatically replaced by the word "tights" is unnecessary and, in the context of this forum, illogical. If you are going to argue that the p-word garment is associated by the general public only with women and therefore should not be named as such in this place, then the logical end to that argument is to ban the word "skirt" since that also in the eyes of the general public is associated only with women. Are we to return to the euphemism of calling skirts "mugs" or "mono-tube trousers"? No - of course not, or at least I hope not.
The garment-which-shall-not-be-named has a name which is in common, regular, everyday use. So please let's just use it, everyone knows what is meant by it, and let's get on with our lives with dignity and credibility. Otherwise we risk becoming laughed at for apparently being too scared and insecure to use the correct terminology, and we feel bound to use a different word (of the same sort of nonsense as "man-bag", "guy-liner", "bro" etc.) for fear that it otherwise might make our balls drop off. Trust me, they won't.
The other issue here is one of geographical context. In the UK the p-word is not in common use. If you go into a shop and ask for "tights", everyone knows what you mean and you end up with the p-word garment, just as it should be. I'm not certain and will stand to be corrected, but if you ask for "tights" in a US store, do you not end up with something different - a bit like what we call "leggings", or possibly footless pant-y-water-delivery-tube?
Enough. I'm sure I have made my point. I don't often post here, but I read this forum most days and I trust that I am known as a long-standing, active, public skirt-wearing member of this community - going back to the mid-1990s at least, when Roger Lewau started up his 'Skirt lovers nest". So I hope my opinion carries a bit of weight.
I think the house rules are wrong in this instance and I would urge that they be repealed forthwith.
