Any bad vibes in public ???

[CJFMix]

This is the situation , for the past couple years , all the skirted men we see around here , are crossdressers !!!

True , most of them go unnoticed , but as soon as a "real guy" in a skirt walks by , there is a subject of curiosity ...

This situation has a potential to raise a range of perceptions we have on ourselves , like : beeing indefferent , beeing different , beeing "marginal" or , to beeing an "outcast" ... whatever ...

Hey , I'm a straight guy and It never bothered me feeling "marginal" because I wore skirts in public for years !!!

But , last week , there was a case , where a regular guy in his early thirties , was walking down the street at 3AM ...
He got beaten up by some punks who drove by , they tought he was gay !!! It was not the case !!!

I haven't heard of any gay beating here for the past 30 years ...

I'm not even gay , but from now on , I'll be more carefull to pick the time and location for my outings !!!

It seems , theese days , you never know what kind of disturbed mind , you cross in your path !!!

[Since1982]

But , last week , there was a case , where a regular guy in his early thirties , was walking down the street at 3AM ...
He got beaten up by some punks who drove by , they tought he was gay !!! It was not the case !!!

That can happen wearing trousers and a suit. Anyone looking for a "gay guy" can see one in any city in the world, the person beaten doesn't have to BE gay, just SEEM to be a gay guy to the warped, drunk jackass that sees him and wants to hurt someone.

I wouldn't let the actions of some arseholes looking for someone to hurt keep me from enjoying my skirted life. There is virtually NO WHERE you can be safe from people like that. You just have to figure the odds and do your thing.

[crfriend]

I think that Skip has a good point here. This was likely either a random act perpetrated by a (possibly intoxicated -- pick your intoxicant) wanton thug or something personal and the parties knew each other. Stuff like this is really very rare nowadays, in spite of what the media would have you believe. I would not worry about wearing a skirt anywhere I usually travel -- although I'll comment that I'm seldom out late at night or conspicuously alone.

[SportSkirt]

I think it's important to feel and look confident when out and about - skirted or not.
Generally bullies pick as victims people that they think are weaker than themselves. Confidence will give you an aura of strength. Having said that, walking in many urban areas at 3AM you're likely to be seen as a victim by drunken groups of thugs whatever you happen to be wearing or doing.

If you are confidend about what, where and when you wear skirts and kilts you'll be fine....most of the time as long as you use a little discretion and a lot of common sense.

[JRMILLER]

I took a long bike trip to a small town in central Ohio Sunday. Stopped into "Lulu's" restaurant for lunch. I was dressed in my bright yellow / gold bike shirt, white shorts, sandals and topped off with a bike helmet. There was a group of 6 "Bubba's" sitting at one of the tables, a couple of them gave me the "evil eye". I have seen that "unapproving" look before when wearing a skirt or kilt out in public, so I immediately recognized it. Funny thing was, I wasn't wearing anything even remotely "femmy", just bike related.

So, the moral of the story is: ______(fill in blank)_________________

[SportSkirt]

I took a long bike trip to a small town in central Ohio Sunday. Stopped into "Lulu's" restaurant for lunch. I was dressed in my bright yellow / gold bike shirt, white shorts, sandals and topped off with a bike helmet. There was a group of 6 "Bubba's" sitting at one of the tables, a couple of them gave me the "evil eye". I have seen that "unapproving" look before when wearing a skirt or kilt out in public, so I immediately recognized it. Funny thing was, I wasn't wearing anything even remotely "femmy", just bike related.

So, the moral of the story is: ______(fill in blank)_________________

So, the moral of the story is: Some People Are Frightened of "Different"

Whatever you do in life if someone is determined to take offence they will.
I've had similar experiences when i've had my leathers (biking gear) on.

[Sasquatch]

CJFMix,
Long time, no post. It's good to hear from you again. My expectation is that Montreal would be the safest place there is, unless things have changed. Anyway, take care out on the streets.
Seeya,
Sasq

[johninaskirt]

In some areas being alone at 3am isn't a good idea. Being different at 3am on your own is deffo not a good idea. I'm a handy guy but not against 6, What worries as much as being beaten up is the reaction of friends and family if I wore a skirt outside. I have worn a kilt out and have only ever had positive reaction (one exception). Why is wearing a skirt so much harder than a kilt??

[Big and Bashful]

I think the kilt is recognised as a male garment, whereas a skirt is unfortunately seen as a female garment only. So if you have a kilt on you are not 'breaking the mould' whereas in a skirt you are committing the heinous crime of being different. What a sad world we live in!

[Since1982]

I think the kilt is recognised as a male garment, whereas a skirt is unfortunately seen as a female garment only. So if you have a kilt on you are not 'breaking the mould' whereas in a skirt you are committing the heinous crime of being different. What a sad world we live in!

Not where these pictures I'm adding were taken. Males and females all wearing skirts as if it was completely normal. True it's at a contra dance, but masculine men in skirts is men in skirts.

[Peter v]

People who cannot and will not think on any normal level, are themselves feeble, weak, mostly men, most often will do whatever to any others they can target to make it look IN THEIR OWN eyes as if they are more than they in actual fact are. There is always the possibility that such a person will cross your path but that is life. As you are wearing a skirt, you cannot "hide" that fact easily to dissapear in the crowd if you think that would be favourable, and therefore stand out in the crowd to those who are seeking. You can get very far with a bluff, showing a strong self confident aura which should help to ward off any verbal and maybe fysical "attack".

I for one am very pleased to see those young MEN wearing not only skirts, but also very "warm" expressional coulored skirts. They are I think very nice, show that you not only wish to wear a skirt, but are willing to show that you also like to express yourself with a skirt.
Although there is naturally a differing importance for each man with the skirt he is wearing, for men to wear such decorated skirts is really going "all the way" with regards to what others MAY, yes, may think about men in skirts. As men wearing bland neutral skirts may be considered manly, but men wearing such decorated skirts may be considered very feminine while that as we all well know has no grounds.

The foto's show young people enjoying themselves, in a decent way, being mutually accepted, and shows that men in skirts can participate skirted with women and other men without any apparent reservations.
(naturally, and why not, but then WE are in the "know" )

[Big and Bashful]

Skip,
Great photos, that looks like a really fun type of get-together and it's great to see a place where it is normal for men to be skirted, my brown gypsy skirt would fit in great there. I have never heard of anything like that this side of the pond unfortunately, I would like to go to something like that, do you have to dance though? Something I don't do and as my ankles continue to crumble under my weight dancing is something I would regret trying!

In my village last weekend we had a medieval night, many costumes, women all in various varieties of long skirts, the men; a couple of kilts and many other ideas, knights etc. mostly and various Robin Hood type get-ups. After a friend did some habit forming I was a monk along with a couple of others. After a nine course banquet thing I was A) very full and slightly drunk and B) had a filthy habit! (Not much cutlery to eat with!). A good night, Didn't get any photos of me though, Dammit!

[mugman]

Being incredibly new to skirting in the public eye, I expect I've yet a lot of fears to overcome. One of them is that of thug attack as there appears to be evidence of no other man in the area taking a chance with a skirt. At least I've never seen one. That doesn't help to make you feel particularly secure, but if I don't try it I shall never know. I would hate to have to go through the rest of my life not doing something just because I'm scared to be seen to be different. As it's very unlikely that someone will have seen a man in a skirt here, except in the fun of carnival processions, when they do become confronted with it on more serious terms they will undoubtedly see it as crossdressing - how can there be any other reason (unless they all read skirtcafe)?
The only way around this is of course to let people think what they will about you as they pass you in the street. As long as you know why you're in a skirt, and are confident about wearing one, then you can regard all thoughts of others as they pass you as being that of complete ignorance. That does make you feel a bit better. Hopefully one day that ignorance will begin to melt away.

[Jack Williams]

I think one of the main problems is that people tend to become set in their ways. I tried to get my very conservative brother to take a look at the site. He said in an email that it was just another example of the attempt to ''feminise'' men driven by gays. What do you do? I told him to try a look at the ''Happy New Year'' thread of mine. Some very pertinent remarks there i thought for him to absorb! Jack. P.S. No, can't say i have personally encountered any noticeable bad vibes in public.

[mugman]

Since joining this site, I've always thought that if you dress 'down' (blend) rather than 'up' (spectacle), the chance of anyone making anything strange of a skirt might be lessened. I think it's when things go over the top, and you are obviously out to get noticed by wearing wild colouring and styling, that people might be provoked into comment, whether this be positively or negatively.
I never sensed bad vibes wearing kilts (two and a half years now), as I found people do respect this choice for whatever reason. If a skirt looks, at a glance, similar to a kilt in length, maybe with a few pleats somewhere in it, this possibly helps to blur any issue anyone might have with wearing a skirt. A skirt that's obviously a skirt is likely to lead to the public wondering 'why?'
I know of two people, male and female distanced by a few hundred miles who have never met, who only refer to my kilts as skirts, in a lighthearted way rather than critical. They know they're kilts but obviously enjoy poking fun at it. I'm OK with that. No bad vibes there, and they're as openminded as we can only hope others to be.
A skirt is, in my mind, is resourcefulness. If it's there on a hanger in a store waiting for someone to buy and use, then why does it have to be a woman who takes advantage of it? This is what folk should be reasoning...a skirt is designed for wearing, and its role in segregating genders is outdated tosh. Bad vibes could only come from those who can't understand this.