Mipi wrote:I agree with Merlin, that "overduing" feminine look is an obstacle in beeing accepted as a skirt/kilt wearing men in society.
Some will differ from opinion, but at least I try to explain why I think that the fear of some is totally unfounded. That they will not be seen as the men that they are, dressed as they are, despite them being dressed as they were before the skirt replaced the pants, just because there may be some other men who dress between very manly and feminine, who also wear skirts. And if there is any obstacle, it would be for those who are "overdoing" the feminine look as stated above and not the other skirted men. As by taking the part of fashion that was before not accessable to men, we are the ones who must notify and educate the public of that very step, that being called freestyling.
The only real way to "being accepted as a skirt/kilt wearing MAN" is to be out there in public, dressed as such. And not only you, but all who want to be dressed in such a manner. (the definition of which ( skirt/kilt wearing MAN) I have yet to read)
Possibly the thought is that it entails men who keep on wearing everything as before, but now have a skirt instead of a pair of pants.
That is the only way you will be RECOGNISED under "a skirt/kilt wearing MAN" by any majority of the population. At least if the population has any fixed idea of what that is. ( although a skirt wearing MAN is every man, including those who wear even very feminine skirted CLOTHING, as long as they are not in their ways and facial looks intentionally trying to be seen as women.)
Educate the people to what they see, not reversed.
What other men do, however dressed, has totally no bearing on the subject, even though they too are MEN IN SKIRTS / DRESSES. If you willingly want to be seen as a man who is wearing a certain definable ( for joe public) type of clothing, like Gothics, then somebody will have to define precicely what that is, and which clothing is and is not THAT particular look.
I do not think really that most men who wear skirts / possibly dresses, wish to be put into any niche, as "cowboy / western,"" "rednek", Gothic, Kilt wearer ( braveheart ) ( I bet nobody would know what "braveheart meant) or any other niche. Men who wear pants are all men? Or aren't they? What is the message that men who wear skirts etc wish to convey? That only a certain as yet to be defined style is manly, and all the rest is not? Even worse, that men who wear anything else, are then not men?? That is very short sighted thinking.
Change, regarding people's perception, THE IDEA, of men wearing anything else than pants, may be for some of the population slow, but that does certainly not mean that men should at this very moment in time put the brakes on, not wear what THEY wish. By wearing what men want to, they all together, but each on his own, by being MEN present an image, not of one type of wearer, as kilt wearers are seen, but as men who wear basically skirts, but possibly with or without all soorts of nuances, which ultimately will educate the public that men are still men even though they wear skirts, in whatever fashion chosen.
Surely the best plan of attack is to educate people that men are men regardless of the clothing they wear, ( * ) unless they change their facial look, and have womenlike behaviour with the intention to decieve.
(* That is where freestyling comes in.)
There is no true way to make any defined image be accepted to be manly while wearing a skirt except the way the person presents himself in whatever clothing he is wearing. The
manliness is in the behaviour, is in who he is, not what he is wearing. Women prove that fact, by still being 100 percent women no matter haw they are dressed.
((Not unless there is an nation wide education programme to do that, and that too should it ever happen should be about men freestyling, that being the wearing of clothing that up to recent times was thought of being only for women.))
That is to the unknowing public "freestyling". If then anybody wants to know more, about the person seen in question, he/she can then go up to that person and politely ask him for deatils. "Freestyling" must be THE easiets way to give men in skirts etc a place when seen by joe public. Also with that "freestyling" the attention should be focussed on the fact that the intention of the person involved is most crucial to which box one puts another in. Example: A criminal is not so by the clothes he wears, but by his actions. As soon as there are numerous subdivisions, people will have to learn and fully understand them all, and what they each entail to be able to give the appropriate respons. And all the while,
all men, who are not about presenting themselves AS A WOMAN, ( again you can even do THAT in dungarees, overalls ) but wear skirts, dresses and even pants, are men, and should be seen as men.
How then are men defined when wearing pants? All men are men unless the present themselves as women, not meaning the clothes they wear, but with manerisms, facial looks, and possibly bodily traits. But as always, if in doubt of what you see, ask. We can forget any part of the population which are forever seeking anything which they can use, however trivial to put another person down. They will never learn better, as they do not want to. So all the other people should be capable of seeing who they have before them, and they I would expect not critisize or in any way negatively address any man wearing anything other than pants.
We have won nothing by wearing a skirt if we ourselves continue to support the incommodious way of thinking that is coherent with many people still fixed in the old outdated way of thinking that men can only wear pants, and they forget that it is you being a man, that gives you the name of being manly. Dressing in whatever other clothing may for those men get the clothing they wear called feminine, but it is in essence men's wear, because they are wearing it, but in a fashion style that is called feminine, but in no way means that the men are that. Just in the same way that women in "men's" fashion are definitely still women, or feminine, and not manly women.
People need to understand what is going on, and telling only one small piece of the story is not going to help. People need to hear the whole story to fully, readily understand what they are seeing. Freestyling is the whole story, and men wearing skirts in numerous ways is an integral part of that. To be seen as a manly skirted bloke, you just have to dress as you would otherwise dress, but with a skirt instead of pants. No matter what others wear, you will be seen as wearing manly clothes, even though part of that is a skirt.
And even if the forum was to be rid of all men who dress even in the slightest way other than ??manly men dress when in pants, but skirted, that will change nothing of the public's perception of men wearing skirts, and only isolate you more. That will give absolutely no guarantee for the manly image
being THE image that everybody knows, and that the members who are fearing, suggest is needed. They may need verification, that may be the issue.
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
I suppose the occasional donnybrook makes the manly-men feel testosterone-rich.