Kilts

[JRMILLER]

Diana,
Sure, but this may well be a result of my fuzzy thinking too....

My theory is this:

A normal human female has two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX) and normal males have two different kinds of sex chromosomes (XY). The X chromosomes are donated by our mothers and the Y by our fathers (for males). Thus, males carry within our genes the potential for both sexes. Based on that simple observation (I am agree it is pretty simple), I could argue that normal XY males, by carrying aspects of both sexes in their very genetic makeup, have the fundamental right to wear anything normally associated with either sex. For instance: "today is Tuesday and my X chromosome is feeling like it needs to stand up and be recognized!". Or I'm going out drinking with the guys and my Y chromosome wants to dominate.

Who knows? Could explain a lot.

Females are the only "pure play" humans on the planet with their double XX.

In the same sense, however, it does tend to water down the "notion" of maleness when you consider that a normal males is 1/2 male and 1/2 female --

There, I 'plained it.


References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-det ... ion_system

[Since1982]

Whether you wear skirts or trousers has absolutely nothing to do with your chromo's, just with whatever social mores are in power when you're alive or where you live. If you were a Roman Senator, you NEVER wore trousers, as senators, being mostly old, rode in chariots. If you were a Captain of men, you rode a horse and leather trousers to protect your legs. BUT, because it was "normal" in those times, you wore a skirted tunic over your leather chaps so you'd still look like the soldiers who didn't have the use of horses and therefore had only a tunic and no leather pants.

If you live today, and reside anywhere but the so called enlightened societies, you probably wear a skirted garment in 2008 and can't think of wearing anything else. For instance, in Tonga or Fiji government officials are not ALLOWED to wear trousers to work. That would be against the "dress code". In Tonga, women are not ALLOWED to wear trousers of any kind. And that's TODAY, not only the past. "dress code" again...In most so called 3rd world countries, the only people that wear shorts or pants are those who attend some religious group and are issued them. Usually getting started as children. I think about 70 or 80 percent of the men in the world wear a skirted garment at least half the time, and more of the time as they get older and not so active.

[sapphire]

Hi John,
Thanks for the explaination! Its really cute.

Totally Off Topic, but are you aware of mosaicism in embryo development? Female mammals do have two x chromosomes, but in each cell only one x chromosome is active. The choice of which x is inactivated happens early in embryo development. One can see this demonstrated in calico/tortie cats (displaying both red and black pigment) The vast majority of calico/tortie cats are female. When it happens in males something weird is going on genetically. In humans when it happens, it is called Kleinfelter's Syndrome and the individauls usually exhibit violent behavior and the individuals usually test as xxy

[JRMILLER]

Sapphire,
No, unaware of that issue. Too many years since college bio, lucky to remember the basics at this point.

I am aware that things don't always go exactly right and that's why I kept using the word "normal".

In may ways, one could simply posit that a male is just a jazzed up and triped-out female on hormones. In this case, so called "male" hormones. If you take a close look at all elements of our anatomy, all the elements are present in one form or another.

That thought, however, is probably very unsettling to most of the male population!

-john

[sapphire]

John,
Don't worry that you have fogetten something from college biology. The discovery of mosaicism is relatively recent, within the past 15 years or so.

Another recent discovery is that of chimeras, or "I am my own twin". It happens when two embryos fuse early in development and the individual who is born has the DNA of two different individuals, in different parts of the body. It was discovered when the DNA of the mother didn't match the DNA of the child. The samples taken from the mother were usually buccal (cheek) swabs.

Sorry, everyone for going off on a tanget. Embryology and genetics have been passions of mine for a very long time.

I'll go back to on topic stuff now.....

[Uncle Al]

Heinz 57 varieties of tomatoes? Skip is a little older than me, perhaps when he grew up,
they only had 47.

-john

John,

You're getting there....The 'item' grows on a vine but it is not tomatoes.

When the item is processed, it can either be sweet, dill or sour. ( Hint )

Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[01/01/08]

Uncle Al, me thinks you have us in a real pickle now.




john

[Uncle Al]

Uncle Al, me thinks you have us in a real pickle now.
john

01/01/08 you have hit the nail squarely on the head
We don't have a Gold Star Smilely sooooo,






Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[Since1982]

Be careful Uncle Al, you're going to get a PM like I did. Berating me for using too many smilies. It was a really vituperative PM scathing me for wasting that members time having to look at all those smilies. Gee, and here I thought those smilies brought smiles to the faces of the readers. But that member DID have one really good thing to say. He said he'd put me on his "foe" list so he'd not HAVE to see my smilies. What a good idea he had!

[Uncle Al]

Be careful Uncle Al, you're going to get a PM like I did. Berating me for using too many smilies.
<snip>
He said he'd put me on his "foe" list so he'd not HAVE to see my smilies. What a good idea he had!

HaHa HeHe!

I'm not laughing at you, but with you
What a "pickle" we may get ourselves into


I'm sure you figured out my trivia question, but 01/01/08
answered first

I would like to ****************
Can't say that here

Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX
Temp under my covered patio is - 101.5 F
That's why I'm inside, playing with the PC and
going to the kitchen for KP duty

[Ray]

Oy, both of you. You're burning my retinas out with all of the emoticons!

You need some good old British sublety...

...sparing use of...in my humble opinion only, of course...

[Ray]

...and don't hit the [send] twice like I've just done..(damn)

[Uncle Al]

Oy, both of you. You're burning my retinas out with all of the emoticons!

You need some good old British sublety...

...sparing use of...in my humble opinion only, of course...

Now Ray,

If you were to say, add some Irish Cream or Bristol Cream
to my coffee, then you would have the entire Cafe' lining up

Some good spirits are in the British Isles
(Sadly, not in my cup!)



Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[Since1982]

To Skip********The correct number is 57, not 47.
Trivia---What did 'Heinz 57' represent

I said 57 not 47. Heinz 57 is a saying the tomato mogul put on all his ads back in the 20's thru the 70's.."Heinz 57 varieties" proclaimed the company to have 57 separate products made from either tomatoes or other vegetable sources. This proclamation might still be on all the Heinz canned goods cans.

Before any of you "across the pond" types scream, in America it's called a tomato, not a tomatoe. A potato is not a potatoe either. Now I...might be a potatoehead. I'm not sure on that yet.

[Milfmog]

Before any of you "across the pond" types scream, in America it's called a tomato, not a tomatoe. A potato is not a potatoe either.

Why would we "across the pond types" complain at you using English rather than American? We would only add the"e" to the plural form; tomato singular, tomatoes plural and similarly for potato(es).

Of course, if we are talking about correct pronunciation...

Have fun,


Ian.