man in skirt on hollyoaks
man in skirt on hollyoaks
Did any one else see this?
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knickerless
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Hollyoaks
I don't know where to find the man in the skirt!
But as for Hollyoaks check this out on Wikipedia:
Using Google as a search engine -
Hollyoaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hollyoaks is a British television soap opera, first broadcast on 23 October 1995,
on Channel 4. Originally devised by Phil Redmond, who also devised shows ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollyoaks - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
Now if one of our UK members will direct us to the man in the skirt.....
But as for Hollyoaks check this out on Wikipedia:
Using Google as a search engine -
Hollyoaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hollyoaks is a British television soap opera, first broadcast on 23 October 1995,
on Channel 4. Originally devised by Phil Redmond, who also devised shows ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollyoaks - 51k - Cached - Similar pages
Now if one of our UK members will direct us to the man in the skirt.....
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knickerless
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hollyoaks
Hollyoaks is as others have stated is on Channel 4 at 6.30 and on E4 at 7.00. The name of the man in a skirt is Kris Fisher. Most of the characters in Hollyoaks seem to be young - it is a sort of British version of Home and Away/Neighbours set in Chester - or so it seems to me. My daughter watches it . Last time I saw him he was wearing a short Tartan pleated skirt but I don't know what colour it was (not vey good at colours. I don't think it was a kilt.
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found this :-
And what's more, the writer's have actually done their research, judging from the episode I saw. The character, Kris Fisher, has been beaten up for dressing. He talked about keep a stash of clothes when he was young, being discovered by his parents, and not wanting to be a woman, just wanting to wear the clothes. Channel four have even gone to the effort of promoting a link to an article on cross dressing at the end of the program.
Okay, it's not going to be perfect, and I bet there are trannies on forums right now berating Channel 4 for getting it horribly wrong. But I'm very impressed indeed.
From what I've seen it's not being sensationalised, and the character isn't "just" a tranny. He's not effeminate, they've even given him a Northern Irish accent* (officially the most manly accent in the UK). More importantly he's not being presented as a pervert. But perhaps most importantly of all: he's a young man, on a program that's watched by young people.
That's really to be applauded, I can safely say that I never saw anything like that in my teens or twenties, when I really could have used it.
I've long hoped that someday a mainstream British soap would tackle transvestism in this way, I must admit I didn't expect it to be Hollyoaks!
And what's more, the writer's have actually done their research, judging from the episode I saw. The character, Kris Fisher, has been beaten up for dressing. He talked about keep a stash of clothes when he was young, being discovered by his parents, and not wanting to be a woman, just wanting to wear the clothes. Channel four have even gone to the effort of promoting a link to an article on cross dressing at the end of the program.
Okay, it's not going to be perfect, and I bet there are trannies on forums right now berating Channel 4 for getting it horribly wrong. But I'm very impressed indeed.
From what I've seen it's not being sensationalised, and the character isn't "just" a tranny. He's not effeminate, they've even given him a Northern Irish accent* (officially the most manly accent in the UK). More importantly he's not being presented as a pervert. But perhaps most importantly of all: he's a young man, on a program that's watched by young people.
That's really to be applauded, I can safely say that I never saw anything like that in my teens or twenties, when I really could have used it.
I've long hoped that someday a mainstream British soap would tackle transvestism in this way, I must admit I didn't expect it to be Hollyoaks!
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Wiki on Kris Fisher:-
Not many on here would be classed as bisexual or crossdresser, but it has to be encouraging that the character has proved amazingly popular as this is perhaps an indication of increased tolerance and acceptance of those who are a bit different from the majority.Kris is an Northern Irish student at Hollyoaks Community College and is currently studying Media studies. As of 4 December 2006, Kris was nineteen years old. He lives in Halls with Zoe Carpenter, Jessica Harris, Zak Ramsey, Elliot Bevan and John Paul McQueen. He is a bisexual cross-dresser, whose character has been amazingly popular with fans.
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Well, thanks for the explanation, as I haven't seen it and possibly can't recieve it here in the Netherlands, but as described, I do agree, that if it is done professionally, then it will be very positive for men who want to dress out of the box, as we do in skirts. Especially showing that when you do so, you are not neccessarily a travestite, but a "normal " man, who just wants to dress differently than the rest.
There should be more of this on much seen programmes. I have seen it once over here, with a serial that is about a family with a teenage son and a daughter, the son of the man and the daughter of the woman. In one episode, in which I came by chance while zapping,
the man and woman had done some sort of ebt, about how it was being the other sex, and they were wearing each other's clothes. The man said that her clothes were fine to wear and he found them most comfortable, dresses and skirts, of course. All in all it put a man in woman's attire, dresses and skirts, in a positive light, and was very positive.
I do believe that different sorts of freestyling men, in skirts should be more often in true life series. ( soaps) but only if done with good taste.
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There should be more of this on much seen programmes. I have seen it once over here, with a serial that is about a family with a teenage son and a daughter, the son of the man and the daughter of the woman. In one episode, in which I came by chance while zapping,
the man and woman had done some sort of ebt, about how it was being the other sex, and they were wearing each other's clothes. The man said that her clothes were fine to wear and he found them most comfortable, dresses and skirts, of course. All in all it put a man in woman's attire, dresses and skirts, in a positive light, and was very positive. I do believe that different sorts of freestyling men, in skirts should be more often in true life series. ( soaps) but only if done with good taste.
Peter v.
A man is the same man in a pair of pants or a skirt. It is only the way people look at him that makes the difference.
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This is very interesting. They have dealt with the subject in a very even handed way. Here's what the link even says about "Women cross dressers:"
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsit ... index.html
Women cross-dressers
It is often assumed that there are many more male than female cross-dressers. However, women who cross-dress are much less 'visible' than male cross-dressers, as it has long been acceptable in our society for women to wear trousers, shirts and other clothes traditionally associated with men. We've moved a long way from Biblical times, when women wearing men's clothing was referred to as an 'abomination' in the book of Deuteronomy (22:5). But it's only been in the last seventy or so years that this has been seen as acceptable in Western society, and it's still unthinkable in many cultures around the world. So if we now see it as acceptable for women to wear men's clothing, why shouldn't men be allowed the same freedom? Why should men wearing skirts be considered any less 'normal' or socially acceptable than women wearing trousers?
And here's a poll taken at the end, and the results, which show a lot of tolerance:
What do you think?
Do you think that cross-dressing is:
- Unnatural and weird 6%
- Different but OK 13%
- An example of the diversity of the human experience 21%
- People should all be able to wear what they want without any prejudice from other people 60%
Only 6% of people see it as being unnatural. And probably the same proportion feel women shouldn't be voting or wearing jeans. All in all, a very commendable use of media to represent and illustrate an important social trend.
To give you an idea of the storyline, I found this on the discussion board. There's a lot of excess hoopla but some good excerpts. It sounds well written.
http://community.channel4.com/eve/forum ... 9130091639
http://www.channel4.com/health/microsit ... index.html
Women cross-dressers
It is often assumed that there are many more male than female cross-dressers. However, women who cross-dress are much less 'visible' than male cross-dressers, as it has long been acceptable in our society for women to wear trousers, shirts and other clothes traditionally associated with men. We've moved a long way from Biblical times, when women wearing men's clothing was referred to as an 'abomination' in the book of Deuteronomy (22:5). But it's only been in the last seventy or so years that this has been seen as acceptable in Western society, and it's still unthinkable in many cultures around the world. So if we now see it as acceptable for women to wear men's clothing, why shouldn't men be allowed the same freedom? Why should men wearing skirts be considered any less 'normal' or socially acceptable than women wearing trousers?
And here's a poll taken at the end, and the results, which show a lot of tolerance:
What do you think?
Do you think that cross-dressing is:
- Unnatural and weird 6%
- Different but OK 13%
- An example of the diversity of the human experience 21%
- People should all be able to wear what they want without any prejudice from other people 60%
Only 6% of people see it as being unnatural. And probably the same proportion feel women shouldn't be voting or wearing jeans. All in all, a very commendable use of media to represent and illustrate an important social trend.
To give you an idea of the storyline, I found this on the discussion board. There's a lot of excess hoopla but some good excerpts. It sounds well written.
http://community.channel4.com/eve/forum ... 9130091639
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That's an interesting article and puts things in perspective. I'd never heard of a 'drag king' until now. I added my vote to the last option, which is now 61%. There would seem to be a lot of acceptance out there.
Perhaps another reason why men crossdress (to use a quaint 20th century term) is that they have always been told it is wrong to wear clothes designed for women. Eventually, as with me, curiosity gets the better of them and they try on a skirt. Some may feel guilty, others think 'Wow! I've been denied this comfort all my life.' and then can't stop wearing the skirt.
I watched Hollyoaks the other night - to be precise I recorded it and fast-forwarded to the bits with the Kris character in (soaps tend to make me leave the room within 30 seconds of starting). He was wearing what looked like a black miniskirt over leggings. There was no way he was trying to pass a female. Wish he'd lose the eyeliner though.
Charlie
Perhaps another reason why men crossdress (to use a quaint 20th century term) is that they have always been told it is wrong to wear clothes designed for women. Eventually, as with me, curiosity gets the better of them and they try on a skirt. Some may feel guilty, others think 'Wow! I've been denied this comfort all my life.' and then can't stop wearing the skirt.
I watched Hollyoaks the other night - to be precise I recorded it and fast-forwarded to the bits with the Kris character in (soaps tend to make me leave the room within 30 seconds of starting). He was wearing what looked like a black miniskirt over leggings. There was no way he was trying to pass a female. Wish he'd lose the eyeliner though.
Charlie
If I want to dress like a woman, I'll wear jeans.