Urban has gone gender inclusive

[crfriend]

The point here is not what it costs per mea/giga/tera - byte of space, but rather the societal perspective of what's acceptable. Right now, from that perspective, guys wearing skirts are not accepted, and hence there will be no "pull" (read, "market") for men's skirts. Full stop. The binary coding is very well established in both sexes and this is not going to go away any time soon (if ever). Thus, until the ground moves beneath our feet we're going to be waiting in vain.

Sally forth and just wear what you want to wear no matter which side of the store it came from.

[mr seamstress]

The point here is not what it costs per mea/giga/tera - byte of space, but rather the societal perspective of what's acceptable. Right now, from that perspective, guys wearing skirts are not accepted, and hence there will be no "pull" (read, "market") for men's skirts. Full stop. The binary coding is very well established in both sexes and [i\is not going to go away[/i] any time soon (if ever). Thus, until the ground moves beneath our feet we're going to be waiting in vain.

It's about making retailers more efficient and making this efficiency more profitable toward their bottom line and selling it to the public. Currently average retailer isn't running their most efficient manner. They are wasting money on labor, because of conservative groups and their hate they have toward other group of people. Having just one category in the computer system would help in streamline their business and make finding the product faster you want. Why pay for a Tech to program a computer and log same product multi times in different categories? More categories the more pages the Tech has to debug, design, and update. It's like seeing a stockperson unloading a pallet and turn around put everything back on pallet and again unload the same pallet putting everything on self again. to med this is total waste of time. When you get tired of paying higher prices because the retailer refuses to streamline their process to more efficiently please send them a note they are idiot for not streamlining and not making their wallet thicker from profits, but also making your wallet thinner. Illegal tariffs isn't the only thing that hurts our wallet.

[Mouse]

.............Having just one category in the computer system would help in streamline their business and make finding the product faster you want. Why pay for a Tech to program a computer and log same product multi times in different categories? More categories the more pages the Tech has to debug, design, and update......

Computer systems do not work this way. There will be one record of the skirt with all the pictures, information, price the lot. This will then be in a data base, with many search paths through to this one record.

So take a long red skirt, size 14, made out of silk, priced £30. This one data based record will be accessed by a number of searches.

Possible searches that will bring up this one skirt record.
Style - Skirt
Type of garment - Bottom
Colour - Red
Gender - Female
Gender - Everyone
Size - 14
Material - Silk
Colour - Not Black
Price - Below £50
Price - Above £20
Material - Not Denim
Length - Longer than Mini
Length - Long

So adding further genders is just a database coding change, which you can probably get AI to write for you.

Making the actual skirt record gender neutral is more work, since you need to use two models in the photo shoot or tell AI to generate pics of the skirt being worn by a man and a woman.

The more ways you can get customers to consider this one skirt the better, which is why some searches bring back things that do not totally fit your search. How many times do you ask a site to show you what skirts they have, only to find some shorts in the mix of returned answers?

[steamman]

The point here is not what it costs per mea/giga/tera - byte of space, but rather the societal perspective of what's acceptable. Right now, from that perspective, guys wearing skirts are not accepted, and hence there will be no "pull" (read, "market") for men's skirts. Full stop. The binary coding is very well established in both sexes and [i\is not going to go away[/i] any time soon (if ever). Thus, until the ground moves beneath our feet we're going to be waiting in vain.

It's about making retailers more efficient and making this efficiency more profitable toward their bottom line and selling it to the public. Currently average retailer isn't running their most efficient manner. They are wasting money on labor, because of conservative groups and their hate they have toward other group of people. Having just one category in the computer system would help in streamline their business and make finding the product faster you want. Why pay for a Tech to program a computer and log same product multi times in different categories? More categories the more pages the Tech has to debug, design, and update. It's like seeing a stockperson unloading a pallet and turn around put everything back on pallet and again unload the same pallet putting everything on self again. to med this is total waste of time. When you get tired of paying higher prices because the retailer refuses to streamline their process to more efficiently please send them a note they are idiot for not streamlining and not making their wallet thicker from profits, but also making your wallet thinner. Illegal tariffs isn't the only thing that hurts our wallet.

Exactly, it’s about efficiency, and efficiency always wins. The current gendered system of clothing makes no economic sense. Separate sizing, separate buying teams, separate marketing. It all amounts to duplication. And for what exactly? This idea that you cut off half of your potential customers before they even touch a hanger is nonsensical, and based on 1950s social attitudes. The truth is that with AI try on, AI driven body measurement systems, the current proxy of the gender binary is on a severely borrowed time. High return rates illustrate that it doesn’t work. Combined with changing social attitudes from Gen Z and Alpha, I firmly believe change is coming quickly. Fashion is next for the “Spotify” moment as younger customers want frictionless shopping and inclusion.

[STEVIE]

High return rates illustrate that it doesn’t work. Combined with changing social attitudes from Gen Z and Alpha, I firmly believe change is coming quickly.

High return rates are largely due to fickle purchasing not gender binary and sizing.
ASOS, "As Seen On Screen", except it looks very different up close and personal.
Change coming quickly, maybe, let us hope that it is in the way you mean.
May not seem like it, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
Steve.