My public journey #2 - London

[robehickman]

She says: "would you like to wear a skirt?"
What he hears "would you like to be a girl?"

Anyone who thinks a man in a skirt looks remotely feminine isn't paying much attention, the body shapes are (in the vast majority of cases) very different. Clothing should not carry any impact on this. I think a bigger issue is that most men do not know how to style skirts, and that many existing garments don't harmonise with a male body particularly well.

[Barleymower]

She says: "would you like to wear a skirt?"
What he hears "would you like to be a girl?"

Anyone who thinks a man in a skirt looks remotely feminine isn't paying much attention, the body shapes are (in the vast majority of cases) very different. Clothing should not carry any impact on this. I think a bigger issue is that most men do not know how to style skirts, and that many existing garments don't harmonise with a male body particularly well.

Clothing is an important part of human communication. What someone is wearing tells people who they are dealing with. Unfortunately the skirt is a feminine flag. To them it does not matter how it looks (with the exception of some national dress items). It's a skirt, it's for women, only a women or a man who wants to be a women would wear one.

[Mouse]

Anyone who thinks a man in a skirt looks remotely feminine isn't paying much attention, the body shapes are (in the vast majority of cases) very different. Clothing should not carry any impact on this. I think a bigger issue is that most men do not know how to style skirts, and that many existing garments don't harmonise with a male body particularly well.

Clothing is an important part of human communication. What someone is wearing tells people who they are dealing with. Unfortunately the skirt is a feminine flag. To them it does not matter how it looks (with the exception of some national dress items). It's a skirt, it's for women, only a women or a man who wants to be a women would wear one.

I think this thread is about celebrating and encouraging CamperGuy and others out into the public streets, in whatever skirts that make them happy. All of us who wear skirts can be improved by robehickman advice on what looks good on a man. As for what people think, we can't change that, but we can show ourselves to best effect by being confident in our presentation. For me, that is helped greatly by meeting up with other men in skirts and in London we have the Barleymower meet ups, which help confidence building and gives a great reason to leave that front door and venture out into the city.

[CamperGuy]

How about you take no trousers on your next trip in your camper van? It would be fun and nobody would mind in the least. (Unless you have family who aren't on board.)

I'm actually thinking at some point of a night in a hotel somewhere like Brighton and as you say, only taking skirts - no options to chicken out and change back to trousers. Along those lines, I will consider footwear as well, but I'll save the whole footwear topic for another post later

Cheers,
Camperguy

[Mouse]

I'm actually thinking at some point of a night in a hotel somewhere like Brighton and as you say, only taking skirts - no options to chicken out and change back to trousers. Along those lines, I will consider footwear as well, but I'll save the whole footwear topic for another post later

I can recommend taking a trip to Aberdeen, with just skirts in your bag. I did this last year as detailed here viewtopic.php?t=25527 and met up with Steve, Susie and Big and Bashful. It was a great trip taking three trains north and staying two night in a loverly small hotel in the middle of Aberdeen. With the return trip, I crossed my favourite bridge twice and generally had great fun traveling and living in a bunch of skirts.

[phathack]

It's a skirt, it's for women, only a women or a man who wants to be a women would wear one.

This is exactly what this forum seeks to overturn, the notion that Skirts and by extension Dresses are only for women, that men can wear them as a man without the notion we wish to look like a woman. Women in pants were once considered crossdressing but not any more and we seek the same for men who wish to wear skirts as a man.

[crfriend]

Add to Phathack's thesis that we also want to remove the implicit coupling of skirt-on-a-guy==pervert. It's damaging, pointless, and likely inaccurate in any number of ways. Sometimes a skirt is just an article of clothing. We need to treat it as such.

[Barleymower]

I think this thread is about celebrating and encouraging CamperGuy and others out into the public streets, in whatever skirts that make them happy. All of us who wear skirts can be improved by robehickman advice on what looks good on a man. As for what people think, we can't change that, but we can show ourselves to best effect by being confident in our presentation. For me, that is helped greatly by meeting up with other men in skirts and in London we have the Barleymower meet ups, which help confidence building and gives a great reason to leave that front door and venture out into the city.

On one hand I absolutely agree Mouse. Camperguy has gone out there, been successfully ready for the next adventure. Well done CG .
We can't change what people think, we also don't know what they are thinking. They might looked quizzeled at us and we might think "it's the skirt" when really they may be worried about their own private lives.
I do think that the reason men are terrified of wearing is a skirt is because they were told as kids, "it's for girls".
As for following Robbies advice... no thanks, I'll decide what I'm going to wear. I've spent a lifetime being told what men can wear. I don't want societies pressures replaced by Robbies or anyone else's edicts.

[Barleymower]

It's a skirt, it's for women, only a women or a man who wants to be a women would wear one.

This is exactly what this forum seeks to overturn, the notion that Skirts and by extension Dresses are only for women, that men can wear them as a man without the notion we wish to look like a woman. Women in pants were once considered crossdressing but not any more and we seek the same for men who wish to wear skirts as a man.

Phathack, I can only say "I know".