Dutch Seamstress Makes Dresses fo Boys

[Myopic Bookworm]

The “wear a skirt cause it’s cooler” is truth. I mean that due to the temperature meaning for “cool” but it hopefully it will also encompass the other cool

I would love to be in a conversation about gender expression where I could use the line "I just identify as cool"!

[ScotL]

The “wear a skirt cause it’s cooler” is truth. I mean that due to the temperature meaning for “cool” but it hopefully it will also encompass the other cool

I would love to be in a conversation about gender expression where I could use the line "I just identify as cool"!

The dichotomy I find most amazingly perplexing is that of the difference between two groups of peoples’ thoughts on men in skirts. There’s the “F that, I ain’t wearing a girly thing” to the “that’s awesome, you’re expressing yourself so boldly”. The first write things like the “pussification of men” and the others write “men in skirts are hot AF”.

As both are opinions, neither are right nor wrong.

But if you think about who you want as a friend, regardless of what you don below the waist, I’ll take the positive person over the negative any day.

The negative folks are likely those with low self esteem who denigrate others to make up for their own sense of failing

[Damon]

Sadly, I believe the business failed. In my 84 years I have observed two companies marketing dresses exclusively for boys. In Britain in the 1960s there was a company y called Boy Design. They made the boys Departments of main street stores and I even saw two other boys wearing their dresses in addition to my own son. Sadly they too stopped trading after a couple of years. The Prinary unisex model is best and their prices are reasonable. It would be interesting to know how many kilts and Utilikilts are sold in kids sizes by the major kilt companies. But I guess even that is at best only in the low hundreds. it is so sad really as my personal hunch is that more boys than one might think would probably like to wear dresses. But they and their parents are afraid. Abd the very few with the courage to do it probably buy from the girl's aisle anyway as that's what the boy probably really wants.

[robehickman]

The only times I tend to see large numbers of women wearing skirts / dresses nowadays is in hot weather, or for dancing. In both cases they have practical function.

[Mouse]

The only times I tend to see large numbers of women wearing skirts / dresses nowadays is in hot weather, or for dancing. In both cases they have practical function.

I think you are correct for many women. However I think there are a number of women that use skirts as part of their personal style on a regular basis. In a similar way, a few men use skirts as part of their personal style.....

[STEVIE]

my personal hunch is that more boys than one might think would probably like to wear dresses. But they and their parents are afraid. Abd the very few with the courage to do it probably buy from the girl's aisle anyway as that's what the boy probably really wants.

Damon,
On this point I would concur with you absolutely.
As for the retail side, up to puberty kids clothes are really unisex in the truest sense so whatever demand exists is easily satisfied.
The end user of girlswear purchasing is even less identifiable than from the lady's department so we will never have a definitive answer to your "hunch".
I can tell you that kilts are available for boys from infant sizes upward though.
Steve.

[SatinDea]

The only times I tend to see large numbers of women wearing skirts / dresses nowadays is in hot weather, or for dancing. In both cases they have practical function.

That is so true.

When abroad, the places I visit tend to be during the warmer weather and women are often is swim wear or wear dresses with not much on underneath as this is more comfortable in warmer weather, It’s also more stylish in ,my opinion as well. My personal opinion is that the Uk have money women dressing like men than some European countries. Which is a shame, The French of course ore very chic wherever they are which I love to see and which is why I love holidays in France.

Not that I’ve visited London that often but when I have recently there seems to be more women wearing skirts and dresses than where I live and the Asian women seem to love lace dresses of all sorts which nice to see and my kind of clothing if i could get the chance to wear it.

[Damon]

Stevie wrote

I can tell you that kilts are available for boys from infant sizes upward though.
Steve.

Unfortunately one still encounters people who believe that kilts for boys are expensive. And Scottish filmmakers kilts certainly are. I remember when I got my first kilt 78 years ago I was told it cost twice what a police constable earned in a week. While they are not nearly so expensive nowadays few people are spreading the word.

[skirted84]

Children's clothes would be basically the same ie boys can very well wear the same as girls, so it's mainly symbolic. It's adults where this is needed as dresses are probably the most unforgiving of male and female proportions including torso height.

[crfriend]

Children's clothes would be basically the same ie boys can very well wear the same as girls, so it's mainly symbolic.

Correct. The pre-pubescent male and female forms are large indistinguishable and hence be discounted in fit terms. Where it matters is with the parents and how closed-minded they are. If they have closed minds, then it's all a non-starter, and the "Father Knows Best" attitude will prevail 100% of the time. If they are open minded, then all bets are off and the sky is the limit. When we're children, we are dictated to us by our parents, so it's the parental layer that needs "education" in this matter. And, given the current social problems, that IS NOT going to happen, because parents are just hoping that their children are going to grow up at all and not hate their parents for bringing them into the world.

It's adults where this is needed as dresses are probably the most unforgiving of male and female proportions including torso height.

Indeed, it's the post-pubescent body form that's vexing in this regard -- but this can be overcome, even "off-the-peg" by careful selection in spite of a a few heavily-hyped theses.

[6ft3Aussie]

Yep, it would be OK for skirts etc to be worn by boys.
It all comes down to marketing and what the parents teach the kids is "correct"...

I have this problem with my 3 year old son, it's mum who's setting the clothing boundaries, with the exception of him wearing what is essentially leggings in the cooler months. As for any kilts, sarongs or anything like that, her attitude is once he's a bit older and he can make that decision for himself but until then, it's shorts and pants.

This evening I'm wearing a long sarong and he sat down with mum and looked at me and said "skirt", so he sees me and knows what I'm wearing so at least it won't be a completely foreign concept for him moving forward.

[Barleymower]

I have this problem with my 3 year old son, it's mum who's setting the clothing boundaries, with the exception of him wearing what is essentially leggings in the cooler months. As for any kilts, sarongs or anything like that, her attitude is once he's a bit older and he can make that decision for himself but until then, it's shorts and pants.

Delay tactics.

[Faldaguy]

Yep, it would be OK for skirts etc to be worn by boys.
It all comes down to marketing and what the parents teach the kids is "correct"...

I have this problem with my 3 year old son, it's mum who's setting the clothing boundaries,
This evening I'm wearing a long sarong and he sat down with mum and looked at me and said "skirt", so he sees me and knows what I'm wearing so at least it won't be a completely foreign concept for him moving forward.

Not at all; and if you simply keep wearing your "skirts" in the normal everyday fashion he will likely pick up on it and want to imitate Dad despite Mum's dictates.

[Jim]

Children's clothes would be basically the same ie boys can very well wear the same as girls, so it's mainly symbolic.

Correct. The pre-pubescent male and female forms are large indistinguishable and hence be discounted in fit terms. Where it matters is with the parents and how closed-minded they are. If they have closed minds, then it's all a non-starter, and the "Father Knows Best" attitude will prevail 100% of the time. If they are open minded, then all bets are off and the sky is the limit. When we're children, we are dictated to us by our parents, so it's the parental layer that needs "education" in this matter. And, given the current social problems, that IS NOT going to happen, because parents are just hoping that their children are going to grow up at all and not hate their parents for bringing them into the world.

There ARE parents that reject the current social situation. These are the folks who might even more work on finding ways of visibly rejecting oppressive structures.

[crfriend]

There ARE parents that reject the current social situation. These are the folks who might even more work on finding ways of visibly rejecting oppressive structures.

I don't doubt it for a moment, but I'll assert that there will be spots where they don't dare to express that opposition publicly or even perhaps in private out of simple fear. And then, it gets into the realm of, "Is it worth getting near this swamp?" -- and for many, the answer will be, "No."

In my part of the world, there is open disgust and contempt for what's going on and being done now, but since the system is rigged there's no way to go about peacefully expressing that discontent, never mind trying to change its causes. Anybody who disagrees about matters -- and has the guts to speak up -- frequently gets told violently to shut the F up or, as we have seen before, simply cancelled from history so his voice cannot be heard. Disagreement with the Party (or, more correctly, the Church/Cult) line simply is NOT tolerated in many spots. Even here where I live, it's muted, but there is much hatred for what's going on and being done. "Freedom of speech" now only applies if one spouts the Party line; everybody else is muzzled.

What sort of chance does "Freedom of expression" in a fashion sense stand in a world like that?

I am reminded of the words, recently recounted to me on whether I was going to stay on here, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". However, it's hard to speak when you have a gag in your mouth or a gun to your head.