Techniques you've used to get more men into wearing skirts

[Mouse]

It depends on who you are trying to appeal to wear skirts. I think most of this thread is assuming an average man in jeans and trying to entice him into a denim skirt since it is do similar and masculine.
However the guy I am trying to help is the man, like me, who wants to wear many things that the women have and thinks he needs to get a wig, boobs, surgery or make up just to wear the clothes and shoes he loves.
A lot of my pictures are showing that you can have most thing you want while being a man
I met just such a guy at the party I was at the other day. He was fed up having to wear a wig to wear his skirts. I showed him pictures of me and pointed out he did not need a wig or make up. I pointed him to this cafe as a help on his journey.
I think there are many types of guy out there and I suspect each one of us has something to contribute to someone.

[Barleymower]

Maybe, if you have his contact details, he could join us in the Eagle on Saturday?

[Mouse]

Maybe, if you have his contact details, he could join us in the Eagle on Saturday?

I was slow, I should have taken more details, but I met him just as my pizza turned up…..

[DrFishnets]

Well my wife & I for a while wore matching his & her Dr. Marten’s Oxblood Red shoes. She rocked them with various shades of colourful dresses plus Snag tights & I think I didn’t look too bad myself! The DM’s I feel, both shoes & boots are just enough ‘out there’ to go with any particular style.
A few months ago I was standing in a queue to a gaming event & the young Dude in front of me was wearing black shorts, black DM boots & large mesh fishnets, looked great!

Yeah, it’s good to see more guys wearing fishnets and Dr Martens. I while ago I seen a guy at my local Lidl wear black shorts and ripped fishnets and combat boots and it gave me inspiration. Likewise today at my sewing group I wore a short black leather biker jacket, short black pinafore mini dress, cycling shorts and a pair of black medium net fishnet tights with ox blood red Dr Martens and a couple of the women complimented my style.

[Grok]

It depends on who you are trying to appeal to wear skirts. I think most of this thread is assuming an average man in jeans and trying to entice him into a denim skirt since it is do similar and masculine.

This didn't even occur to me! Okay, so let think of a sequence. Average man, who wears jeans:

Jeans > denim skirt.

Perhaps such a skirt might be marketed as a work garment. Include good pockets. If an individual tries a denim skirt, and finds it to his liking, there is an obvious next step in a sequence.

Jeans > denim skirts > kilts.

For a step beyond kilts...its not so obvious.

[Grok]

Thought about names for hypothetical denim skirt. For marketing purposes, you will probably want to avoid the word "skirt."

"Trousers" would seem to be plural, with that "s" at the end. "Jeans" would also seem to be plural, with that "s" at the end. What could be the plural part of the garment? The legs. Twin pipes/twin tubes.

So... A denim skirt, jeans with only one pipe. Shorten "jeans" by removing that "s" at the end. So you get-The Jean. If anybody wants to use that as a brand name, they are welcome to it.

[crfriend]

One question -- and a one-word question at that: "Why?"

Why does any garment marketed towards men have to be of stiff, scratchy, uncomfortable fabric?" It wasn't always this way. Before the Great Renunciation, men enjoyed the entire range of fabrics available. Why should we not take that back?

[Uncle Al]

One question -- and a one-word question at that: "Why?"

Why does any garment marketed towards men have to be of stiff, scratchy, uncomfortable fabric?" <snip>

IMHO, If we're trying to get the "Everyday, blue-collar working, Joe" interested in wearing a 'skirt', this would
be a first step. "White-collar" workers would be 'worried' at the reaction from the Corporate Boardroom crowed

I'm about 14 years older than you and I've worn denim quite often. 9 out of 10 times, the material
was soft - not scratchy. I guess it depends on the manufacturer of the denim.
Manufacturing processes have greatly improved.

Uncle Al

[Mouse]

I'm about 14 years older than you and I've worn denim quite often. 9 out of 10 times, the material
was soft - not scratchy. I guess it depends on the manufacturer of the denim.
Manufacturing processes have greatly improved.

Until you wash it.....

[Dust]

One question -- and a one-word question at that: "Why?"

Why does any garment marketed towards men have to be of stiff, scratchy, uncomfortable fabric?" It wasn't always this way. Before the Great Renunciation, men enjoyed the entire range of fabrics available. Why should we not take that back?

That's another facet of the "man box" than needs change. And it is changing. Slowly, but it seems like fabrics available in menswear are expanding and improving.

For male-marketed skirts, the fabrics that look like those in traditional menswear are used to make it seem more masculine. If it takes off as a women's thing, men will never broadly adopt it.

Let the newer fabrics be adopted into more traditional menswear. Male-marketed skirts need to be adopted before we push to make them from fabrics that don't at least look like what men as used to. If you want those other materials, they are available, just marketed for women.

[skirtpettiman]

I'm about 14 years older than you and I've worn denim quite often. 9 out of 10 times, the material
was soft - not scratchy. I guess it depends on the manufacturer of the denim.
Manufacturing processes have greatly improved.

Until you wash it.....

I'm a regular denim skirt wearer. To avoid the rough feeling I simply wear a silky slip underneath. Feels great.

[Seb]

Luckily the fabrics are changing for menswear too. Both the last two pairs of jeans I have bought have had a little elastic woven in and are both quite soft. Both picked up of the rack, in ordinary clothes stores, fairly cheap and in the mens isle, just were Joe would find his pair.

Before that they have all been rather stiff and uncomfortable, except one pair I wore to rags, that incidentally came from the women's rack in the 80ties, that I inherited from my mum.

But I do agree with the notion that the best way to normalize skirt wearing by men is baby steps, just far enough outside the box to push the boundaries.
To far and and we get tagged as excentric, gay or trans rather than just a little quirky. Might win over another excentric that way but we're not touching the ordinary blokes that might want to try.

[jamie001]

Maybe we should just be satisfied with the status quo and accept the fact that we are outliers and will be perceived as transgendered, gay, or just feminine and stop trying to get blue collar Joe Six Pack onboard with our skirt wearing. It just ain’t gonna happen in out lifetimes! Feminine is not a bad thing! There are many articles in women’s magazines describing how to add masculinity to their overall look. Therefore, there is no logical reason that men cannot feminize.

We need to understand what happened to us during the Great Male Renunciation when we were relegated to a colorless, drab, unimaginative unitform for purpose of creating male clones to power the industrial revolution. We need to all of the articles of fashion that once belonged to men such as skirts and dresses, makeup, high heels, nail polish, wigs, and other items that are now considered to be exclusively feminine.

I am not onboard with the idea of taking slow baby steps. The result of slow baby steps at best will get us masculinized skirts and dresses made of heavy scratchy fabric. You will have you choice of the drab color palette consisting of black, brown, dark blue, and gray. Is this what the folks on the Cafe want? It certainly isn’t what I want. Women now wear all items of men’s fashion including suite and ties, all styles of male shoes, men’s large watches, and the list goes on and on…

As men we need to do the same and indulge in all articles of women’s fashion and stop worrying about “do I appear masculine enough?”. That kind of thinking will keep us confined to the ManBox forever with no hope of ever escaping. The first thing that needs to change is that “there is nothing wrong with appearing feminine”. This fallacy that women are inferior has been taught to boys and men for many generations to keep the male patriarchy in power! It is a lie and the sooner that we reject it, the sooner that we will be on our way to making progress.

Don’t compromise! Reclaim that fashion that we lost during the Great Male Renunciation.

[crfriend]

The result of slow baby steps at best will get us masculinized skirts and dresses made of heavy scratchy fabric. You will have you choice of the drab color palette consisting of black, brown, dark blue, and gray. Is this what the folks on the Cafe want? It certainly isn’t what I want. Women now wear all items of men’s fashion including suite and ties, all styles of male shoes, men’s large watches, and the list goes on and on…

In other words, I should simply give up on seeing any real motion in this for the rest of my natural life. What a pleasant thought.

Don’t compromise! Reclaim that fashion that we lost during the Great Male Renunciation.

That's what I'm trying to do.