Skirted Style in Atlanta

[TSH]

I held off on writing about this topic, despite having some thoughts to express about it, because I didn't think it warranted a response. Since quite a few people have posted here, though, I figured, "Well, might as well explain what's wrong here." Let's start with what my very first problem that I have with this being on the "Couture" sub-forum when the content has nothing at all to do with couture.

There is a Youtube video claiming men are wearing mini skirts in Atlanta as a new style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFvyYjJnaI

The video is putting these men down. We can hope it is true men are on the rise in wearing skirts regardless what this person posted. We can hope this trend will pick up across America and every where else.

Who cares what some random old crone and her idiot followers say on YouTube? Why are you citing that particular video instead of linking to clips of the Atlantan men wearing said mini skirts? Almost 120k views, and the video is unanimously liked, so this hag's dimwitted, ignorant audience just nod their heads at everything she says because they're just like most other people in this world: clueless and don't actually care about equality. They just want to see this go away because they don't like it — not because it actually affects them in any way. Hell, this dingbat looks old enough to have female relatives who grew up in a time when women wearing pants was also considered taboo at one point. These assclowns should honestly just shut up forever if they can't see the parallels, here.

Here is another video. The video went viral. Men are claiming it is the latest trend to wear skirts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JILRNORoImw

No. Having 205 views isn't going viral, unless you're referring to something that isn't an hour-and-40-minute-long podcast, which I don't even know why you have an entire podcast posted here in the first place. A bunch of rambling fools talking for a long stretch of time is exhausting, especially if it's a topic they know **** all about. It's why I don't care about podcasts, and most certainly have no interest watching something which has a title that's followed by a really stupid question. "Is It Okay to be Masculine" is a complete non-sequitur in the context of men in short skirts. It's like asking women wearing pants, "Is it okay to be feminine"? Christ, it's a ******* clothing choice, not a indicator of any sort of label or box you want to check regarding a person.

I just skimmed parts of the first video. It's sad to see how disapproving they are along with the comments. Some of the men she talks about have been making a splash on social media which I've been happy to see. I guess it comes with the territory that there's going to be pushback.

The way she nodded that empty head of hers was all I needed to know. YouTube comment sections are generally pretty awful, so there's no point in subjecting yourself to that torture. And this isn't just the territory itself; it's the community that engulfs it, which is what I'll touch more on with this next quote from another member.

I hope it takes hold and spreads to other places.
Quote from the top video. "It may not be that much now, but it's trending. We know what happens when things start trending; other men will be doing it too".
HALLELUJAH!!!

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It's not like this hasn't already trended before. It's very likely it'd go nowhere, as have sadly always been the case.

The videos were both unwatchable for me, but I get the idea. Men in skirts in Atlanta, GA, are getting some internet attention, albeit pretty much negative at this point. It looks like some are deciding to step up and take the heat in a community with a notoriously vocal bias.

Didn't watch them, either. Videos that have no business being posted anywhere in this forum. I emboldened the location because I need to stress this point. Atlanta has a large Black presence, making up a good 46% of the population. The juvenile, obnoxious attention it's getting is largely from other members of the Black community — a community which is known to be problematic when it comes to its exaggerated expectations of the masculine Black Man. It'd be easy just to put this Lord Jamar thread from a year ago here to make my point, but this gives me another opportunity to talk about how disillusioned I feel towards the community I'm supposed to be a part of because of my skin tone. Black men, such as myself, have been subjugated to this rigid masculine image. There's a large homophobic layer to this ideal that seeks to squash anything that could be considered feminine (i.e. a skirt), which is conditioned through religious poisoning and conservatism; feminine traits are often erroneously equated to being gay. This causes young Black males who happen to gay, effeminate, or both, to be considered cultural outlaws. Trying to find a supportive group that doesn't enable homophobia (the Black community) or racism (the White gay community). People here might find this soliloquy to be out of the scope of this thread, but then this thread shouldn't haven't been posted on the Couture sub-forum in the first place. The point here is that, even though I don't live in Georgia (glad I wasn't born in the South), I still understand at least part of the backlash these Black men are going through because I was a target of it, and it didn't even involve skirts at all, but it would've been much worse if it did.

I remember the sagging pants drama that went on for over 20 years, starting pretty much the same way. The more it was decried the more traction it gained in certain communities. I plan to continue in my own way with my own style of skirts, but I applaud those who are willing to take the heat to push society's buttons about what men are allowed to wear.

Ah, yes. Sagging. It effectively showed millennials to be among the dumbest of generations to ever exist. The fact that what was a common inmate uniform issue of oversized clothing not fitting certain prisoners became this idiotic trend of people not knowing how to put on a damn belt, and decades later, we're still in this piss-test of trying to change people's minds about men in skirts shows that we were already doomed a long time ago. Is there a species with even more propensity for stupidity than humans? I would love to know.

You can follow this guy on Instagram. His username is @ai.cashh He's continuing to post content everyday of him wearing his skirts. With over 300K followers, he's probably doing more to steer the needle than anyone on this forum....

300k followers on Instagram isn't that impressive when there were people before him who had much more in other social media platforms, but did very little to give MiS momentum. Also, a lot of the user base here comprises people much older than him. Also, members here are still trying to get some kind of support from the people closest to them. Some are busy trying to get through life day-by-day. Some have been negatively affected by their experience wearing skirts, and decided the human race isn't worth ****. I'm somewhere in-between those last two things, but I'm also second one, as well.

Please note that false optimism does nothing for our cause either.

Of note is that we do not know Mr. S's location. I can see it being somewhat positive if he dwells in a developed country; however, if he dwells in a country with a backwards societal structure and substantial retrograde motion, then the optimism is entirely misplaced and borders on the dangerous.

Of note is that we do not know Mr. S's location. I can see it being somewhat positive if
he dwells in a developed country; however, if he dwells in a country with a backwards
societal structure and substantial retrograde motion, then the optimism is entirely
misplaced and borders on the dangerous.

After a bit of sleuthing, I've found he is located in the hills of southern Kentucky,
South-South East of Lexington, and almost due North of Knoxville, TN.
He has indicated, in several of his posts, that he is in Kentucky.

Uncle Al

Kentucky. Another cesspit of the "Bible Belt". Mr. Seamstress's confidence is even further called into question. I remember us both interacting together a while back. I essentially told him not to set himself for disappointment by just latching on to anything that even alludes to men in skirts. It seems none of what I said stuck with him.

Of note is that we do not know Mr. S's location. I can see it being somewhat positive if he dwells in a developed country; however, if he dwells in a country with a backwards societal structure and substantial retrograde motion, then the optimism is entirely misplaced and borders on the dangerous.

All I'm saying is the jury is still out. Shouldn't rush in making a judgement.

Exactly, so you should stop getting your hopes up over (probably) nothing.

We have different fashion trends started by an influencer, such as wearing hoodies during summer months. I'm waiting to see if the trend moves to other cities.

This isn't a fashion trend, and people were stupidly wearing weather-inappropriate clothing for a long, long time now.

Don't get me wrong here; I'm not holding my breath.
I know a person that works at local store here and will be going to Atlanta to see her sick father in hospital there this weekend. I ask her if she sees men running around in mini skirts while she is there.

Did she give a look of disgust?

Aicashh.com seems base upon more to LGBT communities than the straight man.

That should just be obvious. Straight men don't want to be labeled as gay, because society is apparently too stupid not to conflate two unrelated things.

[AnonUser30]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts TSH. Yeah, I didn't want to comment on the racial element of this particular story, but I appreciate hearing your thoughts. The other thing playing in is Atlanta is widely considered the DL capitol of the US. It seems some of the negative commentary are making that connection here. FWIW, I don't expect men will suddenly start wearing skirts because of this young man and the pleated skirts he's making/selling. But, it' nice to see someone doing it so visibly. Despite having supporting friends and family, I've been pretty reluctant to post skirted photos on my own social media so I admire the kid's courage.

[mr seamstress]

Of note is that we do not know Mr. S's location.

After a bit of sleuthing, I've found he is located in the hills of southern Kentucky,
South-South East of Lexington, and almost due North of Knoxvi[lle, TN.
He has indicated, in several of his posts, that he is in Kentucky.

My location hasn't anything to do with being optimistic of seeing the trend of men wearing dresses and skirts in public.
Are we seeing more retailers on internet selling skirts to men? I believe so. I see this as a indication there is a trend of men wearing skirts and dresses. Am I saying this is a fast trend no. Never-less a trend.
Here is an article saying men wearing skirts is constantly gaining ground.

https://www.accio.com/business/skirts_m ... hion_trend

The question here is, will this trend keep going and hopefully burst wide open or shutter down? Unfortunately not everyone here is happy this trend going faster. You want this trend go faster, you need start being more positive.

Did she give a look of disgust?

Why do question my friendship with a worker at local store? I greet workers with full respect even though some don't agree I should be wearing dresses and skirts. They give me full respect back as a man regardless what I wear. Answer to your question is no.


This is the only social media I post on. I don't do Facebook, Ticktock, Instagram or others.

There are pictures of me on internet in dresses and skirts, but none of these posting from me. Don't be surprise find me wearing cheetah print shirt and pants from men section, but good portion of my community calls them girls clothes and label me a fa.....t even tough I live by myself.

[TSH]

https://www.accio.com/business/skirts_m ... hion_trend

The question here is, will this trend keep going and hopefully burst wide open or shutter down? Unfortunately not everyone here is happy this trend going faster. You want this trend go faster, you need start being more positive.

I know this is addressed to Carl and Al, but I need to make a response. I'm not sure how reliable that chart is, and how it keeps track of this trend, so I'm going to employ skepticism on this matter.

Meanwhile, this "be positive" attitude is just really tiring. You're addressing this to both men who throughout the decades of them advocating for men in skirts to be common, have tried being this — many times, only to be disappointed, again and again. Until we see more substantial, noticeable change happen, we're going to continue being cynical about this. Al, I'm not sure, but Carl and I have a similarly bleak outlook on the future.

Did she give a look of disgust?

Why do you question my friendship with a worker at local store? I greet workers with full respect even though some don't agree I should be wearing dresses and skirts. They give me full respect back as a man regardless what I wear. Answer to your question is no.

I'm questioning her opinion on MiS, not your friendship with this individual. I do this because you live in a region of a regressive first-world country that's more likely to hold a negative, disparaging opinion about this topic than a region that is less culturally conservative. And if it seems as if I was, it's because I usually expect the worst out of people, because it pops up way too often. I guess it's fine if they still respect you, though, even if they don't agree with what you wear. It probably should be expected at this point, but it's baffling people don't have this same viewpoint towards women wearing clothing originally exclusive to men just because it happens to be way more widespread. It's just absurd to me that this line of thinking is presented to people, but they don't even attempt to construct an actual valid retort. It's like they just ******* blue screen, or something. It's a really annoying double standard.

There are pictures of me on internet in dresses and skirts, but none of these posting from me. Don't be surprise find me wearing cheetah print shirt and pants from men section, but good portion of my community calls them girls clothes and label me a fa.....t even tough I live by myself.

Anyone still using the term "faggot" in this way — in this context, is just a worthless, homophobic PoS, honestly. And it just solidifies what I've been saying this entire time.

[crfriend]

I know this is addressed to Carl and Al, but I need to make a response. I'm not sure how reliable that chart is, and how it keeps track of this trend, so I'm going to employ skepticism on this matter.

Meanwhile, this "be positive" attitude is just really tiring. You're addressing this to both men who throughout the decades of them advocating for men in skirts to be common, have tried being this — many times, only to be disappointed, again and again. Until we see more substantial, noticeable change happen, we're going to continue being cynical about this. Al, I'm not sure, but Carl and I have a similarly bleak outlook on the future.

We've all seen, time and time again, the mantra of, "It's taking off!" usually based on some sort of specious internet "proof". "Oh, my! It's finally trending!, inevitably breathlessly offered up without a shred of concrete proof. Of note here, if someone is trying to hawk product, he has a vested interest in seeing something "catch on" and thus must be discounted from the actual algorithm used to discriminate fact from fantasy. Also, to add to TSH's thesis, I'd add the word "persistent" or "lasting" to the notion of change before we say that we're seeing a real signal. If it's not real signal, it's noise. Full stop. We've all seen this time and time again, and it gets old after a while because it's NEVER lasting or persistent; it's always a flash in the pan or advertising.

So, yes, we are jaded, We're tired of the same old story. Until we see lasting change in the landscape there is no point in getting our hopes up, any more than there is a real prospect of Peace In The Middle East or a timely and humane end to the Russian/Ukrainian War. Do don't fall prey to noise in our environment.