Indoctrination Changing Attitudes

[mr seamstress]

At what age should a parent start teaching her male offspring that he can wear dresses and skirts? Wouldn't the younger he is better, so his peers be easier to influence in accepting the male offspring, than when he is older?
We live in a society where a mother having a set of twins, but one is a girl and the other is a boy. As she raise them the girl is allow to wear her brother clothes, but the boy is forbidden in being allow his sister clothes. Why can't a mother start putting dresses and skirts on the boy and still identifying him as her son, while he plays with his peers?
There is such stories where mother having twins started putting T-shirts sold for girls on her son in an experiment how society would react to it. Before she could do that she let her husband know about this experiment. Unfortunate her husband claiming being an open minded person drew his ire and didn't want his son to wear a cupcake T-shirt. She let him have it until he agrees to the experiment.
Mother felt she was being bias because she would let her daughter wear her brother's clothes but her son wasn't allowed to wear his sister clothes.

https://www.romper.com/p/i-dressed-my-s ... cted-12249

Don't expect to much from this experiment since it was done with T-shirts and the average adult carless about T-shirts than dresses and skirts on males. Same goes if a man wear jeans from women section, no one cares.

Society requires us to indoctrinate boys by dressing them in pants only and not telling him he can express himself with other clothing while it is easier in teaching his peers there is nothing wrong how any of choose what attire we want to wear.

[Seb]

There should not really be a difference, if you have the clothes at home from a previous girl or got them gifted, why not put the boy in them, even if just to see if he likes it.

I do think that the hardest place to make a change is in school, since that relies on so many kids accepting, not just their peers but also the older kids who end up picking on them.

[Barleymower]

Reading the article i was suprised that the mum had only
Put her son in different coloured teeshirts.
That's how bad things were in 2016 and they are no better now.

[Stu]

With the exception of the pink swimming top, I don't see much that I would consider feminine in the other tee-shirts. Can't boys like hearts or kittens? Of not, why not? And what's the problem with boys having glitter on their tee-shirts?

Many twins like to dress identically and there is no reason why they shouldn't, especially as children, and that applies to opposite sex kids as well. Same sex twins generally share many clothes before puberty. That makes perfect sense economically (saves the parents money) and in terms of sustainability (less waste).

[Dust]

If we think it shouldn't be a big deal, dads should just wear skirts around their sons (and daughters) from day one, without making a big deal of it. They will grow up seeing it as normal, at least until society starts telling them it's not. And the boys will likely ask to dress like their father.

[Modoc]

It would be great if parents were looking to help erase gendered clothing norms by dressing their sons the same way as their daughters, but there should be no expectation that parents erase gender norms. Parents' main concern is raising healthy, happy, normal children. And unless they feel that dressing their sons the same as their daughters is the best way to achieve that, then they won't be doing it. Nor should anyone outside of their family circle be pressuring them to do so. The most one should hope for is that the male child be allowed to choose whatever he wants when he is able to do so. Parental perogotive is not absolute, but unless it can be shown to be damaging to the child, it should not be interfered with.
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[Barleymower]

It would be great if parents were looking to help erase gendered clothing norms by dressing their sons the same way as their daughters, but there should be no expectation that parents erase gender norms. Parents' main concern is raising healthy, happy, normal children. And unless they feel that dressing their sons the same as their daughters is the best way to achieve that, then they won't be doing it. Nor should anyone outside of their family circle be pressuring them to do so. The most one should hope for is that the male child be allowed to choose whatever he wants when he is able to do so. Parental perogotive is not absolute, but unless it can be shown to be damaging to the child, it should not be interfered with.
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Modoc, if only it were that easy. I mean I've done it. My son expressed an interest in skirts, my daughter said she was non binary. It ended up with both me and my son in skirts.
It hasnt been easy street and all natural transition to skirts though.
- he got the mick taken out of him at primary school by the boys. He shouldered that.
- he got giggled at by the girls, he shouldered that
But long term gender expectations don't change and kids want to fit in. He rarely wears skirts anymore. I have said i would buy him some skirts but he wasn't bothered and i'm not pushing it.
My skirt collection is expanding and I'm not going back but it's mostly just me in our house.

[Modoc]

Modoc, if only it were that easy. I mean I've done it. My son expressed an interest in skirts, my daughter said she was non binary. It ended up with both me and my son in skirts.
It hasnt been easy street and all natural transition to skirts though.
- he got the mick taken out of him at primary school by the boys. He shouldered that.
- he got giggled at by the girls, he shouldered that
But long term gender expectations don't change and kids want to fit in. He rarely wears skirts anymore. I have said i would buy him some skirts but he wasn't bothered and i'm not pushing it.
My skirt collection is expanding and I'm not going back but it's mostly just me in our house.

Barley mower, kudos to you for allowing your children to experiment with nonconformity in dress and lifestyle. It's something all parents should do. To be honest It's not something I would have done when my children were young. The fact is, I was pretty steeped in forcing myself to conform to religious values for my wife's sake at the time. Something I highly regret at this point.
My point is this is a personal decision that parents have the right to make. Hopefully the children survive and find a way to self expression without regrets.