It is 'certain' men, the "Mango Mogul" is a prime example.Susie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:40 am my reaction when the boot is on the other foot? Valid point.
The answer: I despair.
Though I thought did occur to me - make-up, high heels et al: original male items of clothing, worn by women to look more masculine and therefore be taken more seriously.
Maybe if, throughout history, certain men didn't belittle women, think they have control over women's bodies, minds and souls we wouldn't be having this converation.
I can only judge really from my own experience. My mum was a tough lady and made life hard for anyone around her. She would never have relinquished control of her body, mind or soul. She would happily have put me to work in the family hotel and taken it away saying "I owe you nothing". My sister had a lot of affairs and finally ditched her Scottish husband, she told me "if he wants to see his children he will have to pay".
My wife is a good person, she supports me with my love of skirts and will come out with me. It hasn't been a smooth path though. She is a feminist and has strong views.
Men have a role to fulfill and often don't fulfill it well. They are expected to support their families, go to war and die, take out the rubbish and investigate the bump in the night. I think if you are handed a raft of responsibilities and told to "fix it, you're supposed to be a man"; you are liable to go over the top and think you are in charge of everything.
All groups small or large need a leader, it could be women like my Mum, Maggie or Catherine the Great. They are out there.