Three C's

[Ray]

Al,

If you post something whose content is grammatically incorrect, I’m not going to take it seriously, and I’ll comment on it. I struggle to let something so obviously wrong pass by.

That’s not disappointing. It’s an attempt to preserve or support standards on this forum.

Grammar and punctuation is important to some of us. Well worth reading a book called “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” by Lynne Truss.

[Uncle Al]

That’s not disappointing. It’s an attempt to preserve or support standards on this forum.
Grammar and punctuation is important to some of us.
Well worth reading a book called “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” by Lynne Truss.

I have a copy of that book - which is immaterial to this thread.

Are you going to become the 'grammar police' and criticize or critique every written comment
Do you do this to the non-English speaking members who use a translation program to post their thoughts

I've known, and worked with, people who felt they were right(correct) 100% of the time.
Many of those people became loners, lost to their self-imposed kingdom that they are right,
the rest of the world is wrong.

It’s an attempt to preserve or support standards on this forum.

That is something I've tried to do, especially condemning those who bring political views into the Cafe',
when these views have nothing to do with men wearing skirts. (See rule #2)

I have been ridiculed for trying to uphold the Cafe' guidelines.

Granted, I don't always agree with what is posted by the members but, IMHO, they have the right to
express their thoughts and concerns. I wish some would 'proof-read' their posts before submitting them,
finding they left out words, or had major typing goofs.

If someone posts a picture, I don't try to find fault with the picture but try to see what the meaning
behind the picture is, why the person decided to share the picture with the rest of the Cafe'.

Take a broader look at what is being posted, see how it affects the Cafe'.
Is the post really worth getting upset about, over grammar instead of content

Uncle Al

[crfriend]

Note: This is posted as the work of an individual contributor, and not in any sort of "official" function.

That’s not disappointing. It’s an attempt to preserve or support standards on this forum.
Grammar and punctuation is important to some of us.

Well worth reading a book called “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” by Lynne Truss.

I have a copy of that book - which is immaterial to this thread.

I've got a copy, too, and find it a very useful -- and insightful -- look into the writing process and how to produce well-written things that read well and convey thoughts efficiently. We all commit the occasional typo -- this author included -- so that can be forgiven, even after a rewrite or two.

I have been ridiculed for trying to uphold the Cafe' guidelines.

I'll remind that people are intelligent creatures who understand how policies and procedures are likely to hurt them -- and there are a lot of folks that are really frightened at what's going on in the "upper echelons" of government -- and this is now world-wide. The USA and Canada are extremely close to getting into a shooting war, and Europe has been destabilised very badly by the US' very deliberate siding with Russia over the Ukraine matter. Then there's whole matter of Greenland, and by extension, Denmark. Also in play is the disasterous state of the US economy. The reader is left to draw his own conclusions.

[People are entitled to their opinions, and], IMHO, they have the right to express their thoughts and concerns. I wish some would 'proof-read' their posts before submitting them, finding they left out words, or had major typing goofs.

Yes, typos and outright omissions do impede cogent transfer of information, but the human mind is astonishingly good at "correcting" and interpreting things correctly "on-the-fly".

[Faldaguy]

I usually only glance at the bits of wisdom and humor that UA often posts in Off Topics -- then I smile, or frown, maybe even ponder; but rarely does it incite more than that.

The three "C" struck me as absurd as it is internally inconsistent and illogical. Your life is destined to change regardless of choice -- so right there it is fundamentally wrong. Hence, not worth more than the moment passed in reading it -- and that is where it should lie.

However, this on-going thread has gone beyond merely mistaking one's post as humor when it was otherwise intended and turning bits of word play into intolerance-- that is unpleasant at best.

I live in a country where the first language is not English, although that is the only language I feel fluent in -- despite my weird style of punctuation and structure. What I do know is how hard it is for many people to write or speak their "own" language for multiple legitimate reasons, often beyond their command -- but, I still want to respect them and especially I want to hear their thought on MIS. Anybody who has sufficient gumption and interest to enter this site and dialogue -- is worthy of listening to, regardless of weather we concur with their thoughts or not.

For those who are working across a language barrier -- they deserve every encouragement, not distain for lack of a comma or even an incorrect word. Again, as pointed out -- most of the time our minds will readily fill in their intent.

If the English language buffs still want to battle it out; may I suggest you figure out how to comprehend English between England, Scotland, AU, NZ, Canada, Jamaica & Belize and a few more. I will tell you from first hand experience, standing on the street in those places you may have doubts you are in an English speaking country.! Add in the Newspaper in NZ which is ostensibly in English, unless you know some Morori (one of NZ's three official languages) you won't comprehend much. Guys, it is past time to let go of the nit-picking, and get back into your skirt.

[Uncle Al]

Well everyone, excuse me for trying to convey a simple message for M.I.S.

Each person has a choice - Wear a skirted garment or not.

By choosing to wear a skirted garment, your life will change.

By choosing NOT to wear a skirted garment, your life will, possibly, remain unchanged.

Ultimately, the decision is up to you and no one else.

This was intended to convey support for those 'fence riders' about wearing a skirted garment.
THAT. IS. ALL.

That concept was missed by many, reminding me of the idiom "Couldn't see the forest for the trees".

From Google - The idiom "can't see the forest for the trees" means someone is so focused on
the details of a situation that they are unable to grasp the overall picture or bigger picture.

Uncle Al

[Barleymower]

In my skirting life, my Choice was to bug my wife until I got the OK to buy a utility kilt.
My Chance was Covid where I wore and made skirts the whole time, leading to me returning to work in a skirt.
My Change is that I am now happy in my life where I get to play and work in a skirt.

Your wife was against the idea at first...
Did she say why? How did you reasure her or did you just bug her?

[Ray]

As an attempt at levity: four candles?

[Mouse]

As an attempt at levity: four candles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozpek_FrOPs

[Mouse]

In my skirting life, my Choice was to bug my wife until I got the OK to buy a utility kilt.
My Chance was Covid where I wore and made skirts the whole time, leading to me returning to work in a skirt.
My Change is that I am now happy in my life where I get to play and work in a skirt.

Your wife was against the idea at first...
Did she say why? How did you reasure her or did you just bug her?

I told Mrs Mouse all about my skirts, leotards and other stuff, way before she became Mrs Mouse. So for 24 years of marriage, my skirting was a hobby that she knew all about, but it didn't affect her life much. Buying a Utilikilt was obviously a step where her husband would be come more obviously different. I showed her the Utilikilt website with hairy men chopping wood etc and then they had a sale, so the expensive kilt, was not so expensive, which was another concern.

[Barleymower]

I told Mrs Mouse all about my skirts, leotards and other stuff, way before she became Mrs Mouse. So for 24 years of marriage, my skirting was a hobby that she knew all about, but it didn't affect her life much. Buying a Utilikilt was obviously a step where her husband would be come more obviously different. I showed her the Utilikilt website with hairy men chopping wood etc and then they had a sale, so the expensive kilt, was not so expensive, which was another concern.

Thanks for sharing Mouse. It's good to know how other guys approach the problem of telling our partners. Honestly proving again and again to be the best policy.
I came late to skirt wearing. I'm still a bit wary but each day it gets better.
We still debate the subject. The last discussion revolved around whats appropiate for MIS, skirt length, what is attactive. I said as long as somebody isnt standing there in an outfit telling another human that they cannot wear the same.
I dont see it as dishonest not to tell either. Married or not people are not obliged to reveal absolutely everything. We are allowed some secrets.

[Skirt18220]

Pretty hard to keep wearing skirts secret when you live in the same house friend Barleymower.
I just went with the kilt avenue first. found some cheap ones on etsy. They weren't even kilts really, lacked pleats at the back. Started wearing those around the yard. next found a couple of blue jean skirts at the used things store. My wife didn't like that but I did it anyway. Now I wear kilts or skirts all the time no matter where I am going. Never get a negative comment from the wife about kilts. Do occasionally get a negative comment about a skirt I might wear but I just tell her I like it and wear it anyway.

[Mouse]

Pretty hard to keep wearing skirts secret when you live in the same house

In my mind, there wasn't anyway I was going to keep something so big in my mind, secret from my partner in life. She had to know, IMHO.

Now I wear kilts or skirts all the time no matter where I am going. Never get a negative comment from the wife about kilts. Do occasionally get a negative comment about a skirt I might wear but I just tell her I like it and wear it anyway.

I am on the same page. There is no discussion about whether I wear skirts or trousers, since I wear skirts everyday. I do however take odd pieces of advice, if given, from Mrs Mouse, if we are going to visit family or we are going out together. If I am going out by myself, then the only restriction is me.
My backstop skirt is my Stumptown black kilt. There is nothing beyond this.