Men wearing a skirt in commercial

[Katycatjulius]

Hello everyone,

I recently saw a commercial of Zeeman (which is a dutch clothing brand that is on the cheaper side) on tv here in the Netherlands and it features a men standing in a skirt (they literally call it a Rok which is the Dutch language word for skirt), now they don't sell skirts for men (i checked) however it is nice to see this on a commercial that is shown on mainstream big television channels here in the Netherlands.

I don't know if the video is playable in all countries but they have the commercial on their own youtube channel https://youtu.be/pvMYzNieMFE?si=QUrPA112BA86liaH it basically goes about pearing the basics clothes Zeeman sells with second hand items.

I really like this because it is shown on big television channels and maybe just maybe get some people thinking about the idea of men wearing skirts so it becomes more normalised.

Greetings Julius

[Speedi]

Katycatjulius wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I recently saw a commercial of Zeeman (which is a dutch clothing brand that
> is on the cheaper side) on tv here in the Netherlands and it features a men
> standing in a skirt (they literally call it a Rok which is the Dutch
> language word for skirt), now they don't sell skirts for men (i checked)
> however it is nice to see this on a commercial that is shown on mainstream
> big television channels here in the Netherlands.
>
> I don't know if the video is playable in all countries but they have the
> commercial on their own youtube channel
> https://youtu.be/pvMYzNieMFE?si=QUrPA112BA86liaH it basically goes about
> pearing the basics clothes Zeeman sells with second hand items.
>
> I really like this because it is shown on big television channels and maybe
> just maybe get some people thinking about the idea of men wearing skirts so
> it becomes more normalised.
>
> Greetings Julius
It's great that Zeeman is pushing boundaries with their commercial and showcasing a more inclusive and open-minded approach to fashion. Even if they don’t sell skirts for men yet, it’s a step forward to normalize it in mainstream media. Who knows, maybe it'll spark some change in the future

[Modoc]

It was a positive showing of a MIS; too bad they don't offer in their clothing line.

[Katycatjulius]

It was a positive showing of a MIS; too bad they don't offer in their clothing line.

Yeah that indeed is positive, as for selling it themselves i can see from a business standpoint that at the moment it isn't profitable to do so but i hope that in a few years it is way more normalised and that then maybe it is a profitable business but it is also understanding what men want in skirts and i don't know if i am correct but i think men want the look of a skirt like women have them now (including colours) but then with sizing fit to men

[STEVIE]

It was a positive showing of a MIS; too bad they don't offer in their clothing line.

Just a thought.
Any retailer selling skirts, sells skirts for, or, that, can be worn by men.
Unless they have some very weird business plan, that is.
Steve.

[Katycatjulius]

It was a positive showing of a MIS; too bad they don't offer in their clothing line.

Just a thought.
Any retailer selling skirts, sells skirts for, or, that, can be worn by men.
Unless they have some very weird business plan, that is.
Steve.

If you look at it this way then yes they do sells skirts that can be worn by men, however the sizing that is used for women's clothing is very much different then the sizing used for men's clothing this because men and women are build differently so while yes it is possible now to buy a skirt that fits a men it is not easy finding the correct size and would be much easier if they make them to fit the build of men

[STEVIE]

Hi Katycatjulius,
All I can say to that is it never stopped me in the past and doesn't now.
Trial and error, learning can be fun in my experience.
Steve.

[Katycatjulius]

Hi Katycatjulius,
All I can say to that is it never stopped me in the past and doesn't now.
Trial and error, learning can be fun in my experience.
Steve.

Great to hear it isn't stopping you, it isn't stopping me either but that doesn't change that it would be easier in it was made for the build of men

[STEVIE]

but that doesn't change that it would be easier in it was made for the build of men

The problem is that the seller knows that they don't have to make it "easier", they make the sale anyway.
Altering their manufacture process would cost more with little added profit so they are very unlikely to change.
All down to money.
Steve.

[crfriend]

The problem is that the seller knows that they don't have to make it "easier", they make the sale anyway.
Altering their manufacture process would cost more with little added profit so they are very unlikely to change.
All down to money.

Most skirts are quite forgiving anyway, and since men know this and tend to be reasonably smart creatures learn pretty quickly that this is the case.

I think it's more down to the simple fact that any guy who puts on a skirt immediately removes himself from the poll of prospective romantic partners for women, and incessant male-on-male policing. No amount of marketing is going to help either of those factors.

[Katycatjulius]

I think it's more down to the simple fact that any guy who puts on a skirt immediately removes himself from the poll of prospective romantic partners for women, and incessant male-on-male policing. No amount of marketing is going to help either of those factors.

It's true that a men who wears a skirt has a much harder time to find a women romantic partner (i have first hand experience with this being literally dumped for wearing skirts) however i do think good marketing can help in normalising men wearing skirts, with good marketing i mean just showing people it is a thing and there is nothing wrong with it like this commercial i started this thread with does, this commercial shows it happening and by that shows there is nothing wrong with it while letting everyone make there own choice in it

[crfriend]

It's true that a men who wears a skirt has a much harder time to find a women romantic partner (i have first hand experience with this being literally dumped for wearing skirts) however i do think good marketing can help in normalising men wearing skirts, with good marketing i mean just showing people it is a thing and there is nothing wrong with it like this commercial i started this thread with does, this commercial shows it happening and by that shows there is nothing wrong with it while letting everyone make there own choice in it.

No amount of "advertising" is going to make lick of difference in that equation, or in the trans-* confusion situation for decades to come. The disgust (in the first part) and the outright hatred (on the second part) will likely take a human generation (or more) to erase based on the levels they have been fanned to. One does not feed a smouldering coal pure oxygen and not expect a flame to erupt; these acts have been deliberately orchestrated.

WE, of course, know there are no connections between wearing a skirt and anything else save personal taste, but we're in a decidedly small minority -- that's realistically too small to even notice much less analyse. Thus, if we choose to exercise the supposed "freedom" to wear what we want we will entirely likely to live our lives alone, and be in constant worry about the hate-fuelled types in most every environment.

It's going to take several dozen years (at least) to repair the damage from the past six months. I'll be long dead before I see that.

[Katycatjulius]

It's true that a men who wears a skirt has a much harder time to find a women romantic partner (i have first hand experience with this being literally dumped for wearing skirts) however i do think good marketing can help in normalising men wearing skirts, with good marketing i mean just showing people it is a thing and there is nothing wrong with it like this commercial i started this thread with does, this commercial shows it happening and by that shows there is nothing wrong with it while letting everyone make there own choice in it.

No amount of "advertising" is going to make lick of difference in that equation, or in the trans-* confusion situation for decades to come. The disgust (in the first part) and the outright hatred (on the second part) will likely take a human generation (or more) to erase based on the levels they have been fanned to. One does not feed a smouldering coal pure oxygen and not expect a flame to erupt; these acts have been deliberately orchestrated.

WE, of course, know there are no connections between wearing a skirt and anything else save personal taste, but we're in a decidedly small minority -- that's realistically too small to even notice much less analyse. Thus, if we choose to exercise the supposed "freedom" to wear what we want we will entirely likely to live our lives alone, and be in constant worry about the hate-fuelled types in most every environment.

It's going to take several dozen years (at least) to repair the damage from the past six months. I'll be long dead before I see that.

I understand what you mean and i think you are right.

While it is true that the chance is high we will be living our lives alone if we choose to wear a skirt as men (or as you say "if we choose to exercise the supposed "freedom" to wear what we want") it isn't impossible, there are members here that prove that by being in a relationship but those numbers probably aren't big.

I just hope that someday it is normalised that we all wear whatever we like and feel comfortable in including men wearing skirts or dresses, i don't know if i will live to see that day But i just hope that day will come whether i see it myself or not

[STEVIE]

just showing people it is a thing and there is nothing wrong with it like this commercial i started this thread with does, this commercial shows it happening and by that shows there is nothing wrong with it while letting everyone make there own choice in it

Sorry man but this commercial shows a guy wearing an item of clothing reserved for females.
At least that will be the interpretation of most viewers of any gender.
Sure you are free to choose but we all know that there is a high price to pay for making that choice.
Sadly, a guy being dumped for wearing a skirt is pretty much normal.
Skirts for men may really take off if the opposite ever applies.
There are more sad and lonely old men in skirts than there will ever be happy ones with truly accepting partners.
Steve.

[crfriend]

I just hope that someday it is normalised that we all wear whatever we like and feel comfortable in including men wearing skirts or dresses, i don't know if i will live to see that day But i just hope that day will come whether i see it myself or not

I concur on those points, but I'm quite confident I'm not going to see it during my lifetime. It looked promising for a while, but that's been dashed. I don't know how old you are, but I'm in my mid 60s and the day I lose my job will be without support income or access to health care, so I'm figuring maybe three more years, tops. Then if becomes a problem for my Executor (that is, if I have anything left in my bank-accounts).