UK Strictly Come Dancing

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Upon mention of tutu's, I was reminded of the dress style of Erica Nockalls (Wonderstuff, Proclaimers, solo artist as well as painter). She almost always performs in outfits that include a tutu or a-line dress with ruffles. Apologies for the momentary diversion from the topic subject matter :-)
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FranTastic444 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:23 pm
howardfh wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:50 am Not Strictly but deffo dancing, male dancer/s in skirts (and tights) backing Mylene Farmer >
What an interesting video!

The artist pinned the following comment to the top of the video in the link above -
In a spirit of challenging sartorial clichés of the male and female sexes, Jean-Paul Gaultier explores androgyny and diversity....
He took great pleasure in dressing all the dancers in tutus, to the great pleasure of Mylène Farmer.
The words of the song are clearly relevant: "I am a boy" (she sings), "I am the Chevalier d'Eon" (look him up!!).
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Must admit I'm not keen on tutu's on either male or female! But I love the style of the video and the fact that the men wear tights as part of their outfit and it all looks so natural.
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I'm a bit off-topic here. An exercise I do once in a while, is to try understanding the lyrics of an English music. Firstly without reading the lyrics, and secondly with lyrics - to check if I was right or simply more often when I couldn't understand without them. If you try this exercise with Mylène Farmer's music "Sans contrefaçon", be aware that even for native French speaker it is not an easy one because of some unusual phrases or words. To be honest, I thought since my childhood that she was saying "Puisqu'il faut choisir, avant tout, je peux le dire" but she's saying "Puisqu'il faut choisir, à mots doux, je peux le dire" :lol:

Back to the original topic, I second what has been said. I'm too not keen of tutu-like skirts, but they're nice for such performances. And yes, lyrics are definitely in line with their clothing.
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Spirou003 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:17 pm If you try this exercise with Mylène Farmer's music "Sans contrefaçon", be aware that even for native French speaker it is not an easy one because of some unusual phrases or words. To be honest, I thought since my childhood that she was saying "Puisqu'il faut choisir, avant tout, je peux le dire" but she's saying "Puisqu'il faut choisir, à mots doux, je peux le dire" :lol:
What you have there is in English known as a mondegreen. There are plenty of fun examples on the Web, but you can find some good ones and an explanation here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen?wprov=sfla1
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Myopic Bookworm wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:50 am "I am a boy" (she sings), "I am the Chevalier d'Eon" (look him up!!).
Returning to Strictly, has it ever had a transgendered person on the show?
The Chevalier d'Eon certainly lived as a female, but physical reassignment was clearly impossible at that time and his case was by no means unique either.
The Strictly Clip, the song and the Chevalier d'Eon are only relevant men in skirts in that they each show how gender, sexual orientation and clothes have a very loose, if not completely, spurious, relationship.
Apologies to all the Strictly fans who might be reading this, but that show is only a step or two above "Eurotrash", which is now gone.
Look that one up, it's an education?
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STEVIE wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:24 pmApologies to all the Strictly fans who might be reading this,
but that show is only a step or two above "Eurotrash", which
is now gone. Look that one up, it's an education?
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Why do you consider ballroom dancing as trash :?:
The 'clip' showed a well choreographed routine that took a while to perfect.
Granted, most of this 'clip' was not to my 'style' of dance, yet, provoked an
energy that is inspiring to many 'couch potatoes'.

I met my wife in a ballroom dance class at college.
Gliding around the dance floor was an exhilarating experience :D
I loved every minute of the class(and my wife ;) )

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Al

Ballroom dancing is one thing.

A UK television program about ballroom dancing - in reality just a backdrop for entertainment - is something else.

Yes, there are stories of personal triumphs, inspirational journeys etc - but there’s a valid argument to say it’s all superficial, corny, exaggerated and to reference Stevie, not far from Eurotrash - which is not a synonym for trash - although on a Venn diagram, there’s a lot of intersection. Many would argue that it’s dumbed down Saturday night entertainment for the masses.

Hope that helps. Vilifying “Strictly” is not vilifying ballroom dancing.
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STEVIE wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:24 pm ......but that show is only a step or two above "Eurotrash", which is now gone.
Look that one up, it's an education?
Steve.
I loved the show in the nineties when it was presented by Antoine de Caunes and Jean-Paul Gaultier, especially as Jean-Paul presented in a skirt.
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STEVIE wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:24 pm Apologies to all the Strictly fans who might be reading this, but that show is only a step or two above "Eurotrash", which is now gone.
Uncle Al wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:07 pm Why do you consider ballroom dancing as trash
Save me the lecture Al, read that sentence, it's about the show, not the routine, and certainly not about any form of dance at all.
As a mod you have corrected others when they have taken a statement out of context, I'd be grateful if you could practice what you preach.
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STEVIE wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:19 amSave me the lecture Al, read that sentence, it's about the show,
not the routine, and certainly not about any form of dance at all.
As a mod you have corrected others when they have taken a
statement out of context, I'd be grateful if you could practice what you preach.
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The only "context" I have is what appears to be downgrading an artistic form.

Personally, "Eurotrash" and "Strictly" have no meaning to me. These 'programs',
to my knowledge, have not been shown in America. I have no 'contextual'
background from which to form an idea. Only the printed word in this thread.
You're taking for granted that 'everyone' knows of these programs, which
several - like me - have never heard of before. I've watched, and admired,
"Dancing With The Stars', a program where television, and movie, personalities
do something completely different to 'their normal' activities.

So, place my comments in the 'uneducated' category, as I can only go with the
written comments here, and what I personally know on my 'local stage' which
your local programming greatly differs.

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Uncle Al wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:01 pm "Dancing With The Stars', a program where television, and movie, personalities
do something completely different to 'their normal' activities.
So Al, you said it yourself, this is the American equivalent of the UK/BBC "Strictly come Dancing".
Now, if you can imagine an American show that you feel is asinine drivel, Eurotrash in my world.
I criticised the show formats as that is my honest opinion and I stand by that.
What I did not criticise was dance in any shape or form, I did not even imply that in any statement.
What's more, I find it difficult to believe that your comments arise from a lack of awareness arising from the uneducated category.
I hope we can agree to differ and leave it there.
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I watch Strictly mostly to gawk at all the amazing clothing. The dancing is ok, and of course it's full of British humor, something which the other versions just don't have. It doesn't take itself too seriously, which is refreshing.

Also, seeing a blind man learn the foxtrot in a week is just amazing.
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rode_kater wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:49 pm Also, seeing a blind man learn the foxtrot in a week is just amazing.
Following Dianne Buswell https://www.instagram.com/diannebuswell/ is quite amazing at the moment with behind the scenes posts of her training Chris, (The blind Guy)
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So good to see the positive comments, and I mean that most sincerely.
Anything else from me could bring double trouble!
Ach, what the hell, yes awesome what people do achieve, just a pity that the showcase has to be on platforms like this.
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