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crfriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:42 pm
just not one festooned with tattoos, swears like a sailor, smokes like a chimney, and is unconcerned with those around her.
Add to that the "previous" they all seem to have with the same type of antisocial, thoroughly unsavoury individual, and usually with a souvenir or two to show for it, and I could have written this myself.
Freedom of expression, or a modern relationship? Perhaps not such a difficult choice.
Grok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:46 pm
I understand that David's Bridal has gone out of business. Noticed comments regarding individual stores going out of business, stores that specialized in wedding dresses. Also, the jewelry industry being severely impacted.
Is it that the wedding business is going down, or the marriage business? Because in my experience, the only reason people near me have gotten married is the legal benefits: automatic acknowledgement of children, visitation rights, inheritance rights, etc. Yes, you can get all those things without marrying but it's much harder and more expensive, whereas a basic marriage with two witnesses at the local council office is a small administration fee.
Most of them did not do a big wedding ceremony with the white dress and lots of people because it's too damn expensive. At most a small dinner with a few friends. In some cases they didn't tell anyone at all until months later. Yes, there are people who will do the big wedding thing, but I can totally understand if that becomes less common. Why spend money on a big wedding when you can't even save for a down payment on a house to live in?
I'd be happy to see the wedding industry contract a bit. One factor in the decline of marriage is that too many people think they have to spend shedloads of money on a stupidly expensive ceremony and party when they could just have a few friends over and get married with out so much ridiculous fuss.
My first sister-in-law was very keen on a wedding, and got married in a dress that looked like a heap of meringue. What she apparently hadn't reckoned with was that she was then expected to live with the bloke (my brother) on a permanent basis. It lasted less than two years. Neither set of parents was surprised.
